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"The Tolleson Police Department is investigating" The police is not qualified to investigate this. The only people that should be investigating is people who u

by dheera 1y ago

"The Tolleson Police Department is investigating" The police is not qualified to investigate this. The only people that should be investigating is people who understand the code that the drones run. Accidents will happen as long as we, as a society, agree and desire to have new tech. The investigations and bug fixes should be left to people who understand the tech.

JCM9 1y ago
The Feds will quickly arrive and take over. Aviation issues are Federal matters. The only role of local law enforcement and emergency response is to provide any first aid and then secure the scene for the Feds. Unless lives are at risk local police shouldn’t even touch anything. They put up yellow tape around the scene and keep it secure until the FAA and/or NTSB arrive.
atm3ga 1y ago
I'm not sure why this is getting down voted. Indeed, the FAA is the correct investigating body here as the local police department has no jurisdiction over aviation accidents. They should have immediately called in the FAA to investigate.
- orbisvicis 1y ago
  Maybe, maybe not: "The NTSB will retain far more employees than during prior shutdowns when it had to furlough 90% or more of its workers. In 2019, the agency did not send investigators to 22 accidents because of the funding lapse. But it made the case to White House budget officials that it needed more personnel for critical functions." https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/faa-would-furlough-11000-employees-us-government-shutdown-2025-09-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/faa-would-fur...
- dheera 1y ago
  They should call in a bunch of robotics and PyTorch experts to investigate the code, actually, and preferably also submit a pull request to Amazon. Amazon should be required to pay this "squat team". The FAA does not have the expertise to diagnose this.
  - Rumudiez 1y ago
    The code, all of it, is just an implementation detail. All that matters is real world behavior and its consequences.
    - dheera 1y ago
      And if it doesn't perform as expected in the world, all human efforts should be on fixing the actual code. Anything else, especially non-technical conversations, is a waste of human time.
      - Rumudiez 1y ago
        Sure, but the police or feds or FAA aren’t responsible for fixing it. They’re just enforcement
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by dheera 1y ago

JCM9 1y ago

The Feds will quickly arrive and take over. Aviation issues are Federal matters. The only role of local law enforcement and emergency response is to provide any first aid and then secure the scene for the Feds. Unless lives are at risk local police shouldn’t even touch anything. They put up yellow tape around the scene and keep it secure until the FAA and/or NTSB arrive.

atm3ga 1y ago

I'm not sure why this is getting down voted. Indeed, the FAA is the correct investigating body here as the local police department has no jurisdiction over aviation accidents. They should have immediately called in the FAA to investigate.

orbisvicis 1y ago
Maybe, maybe not: "The NTSB will retain far more employees than during prior shutdowns when it had to furlough 90% or more of its workers. In 2019, the agency did not send investigators to 22 accidents because of the funding lapse. But it made the case to White House budget officials that it needed more personnel for critical functions." https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/faa-would-furlough-11000-employees-us-government-shutdown-2025-09-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/faa-would-fur...
dheera 1y ago
They should call in a bunch of robotics and PyTorch experts to investigate the code, actually, and preferably also submit a pull request to Amazon. Amazon should be required to pay this "squat team". The FAA does not have the expertise to diagnose this.
- Rumudiez 1y ago
  The code, all of it, is just an implementation detail. All that matters is real world behavior and its consequences.
  - dheera 1y ago
    And if it doesn't perform as expected in the world, all human efforts should be on fixing the actual code. Anything else, especially non-technical conversations, is a waste of human time.
    - Rumudiez 1y ago
      Sure, but the police or feds or FAA aren’t responsible for fixing it. They’re just enforcement
      - deleted 1y ago
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