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Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is curren

Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all. But I have never seen rampant obesity in Hamas prisoners that the IDF have captured alive? Hamas can't be extorting the Gazan people for those calories, the Gazan people have no money at this point by and large due to the huge swath of destruction of property and infrastructure via bombing-- only Hamas has those underground tunnels or somesuch. So like... what is going on here

justin66 1y ago
Congratulations on discovering an easily identifyable lie.
s5300 1y ago
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mef51 1y ago
From the article: "An internal US government review found no evidence of widespread theft by Hamas of US-funded humanitarian aid in Gaza." Other reporting supports this. So what is going on is that the IDF are lying to justify their genocide. There is a massive propaganda machine at work to muddy the waters.
m-s-y 1y ago
the article also states that the US has looked into the reports of Hamas stealing the aid and found that none of the aid appears to have been stolen by anyone. given the current US administration and their hard-on for Israel, I can't imagine this is a faked report. if it were faked, it'd be to agree with Israel
mupuff1234 1y ago
Kinda silly logic, access to calories doesn't mean someone has to be obese. Not saying that the claim is true, just that your logic is faulty.
YZF 1y ago
Have a look here: https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-photo-gallery-hostages-eeb1fd13f239c33f9d35b8d88d2a7034 https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-photo-gallery-hostag... Plenty of Hamas fighters looking in pretty great shape.
Ozzie_osman 1y ago
> Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all. This claim is made by supporters of the war _outside of Israel_ for external consumption. If you look at what the Israeli cabinet, generals and politicians are saying for internal consumption... it's pretty deliberate.
- throwaway290 1y ago
  UN data, compare numbers "arrived" and "intercepted": https://app.un2720.org/tracking https://app.un2720.org/tracking are you saying un supports the war then?
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    Intercepted is defined as "either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully by armed actors, during transit in Gaza." Some fraction of that may be Hamas. But we have no evidence of that.
    - throwaway290 1y ago
      I guess we may never know. But hey, between hungry peasants and buff hamas soldiers we do know who has the guns. This is a truck. You are a hungry person. How do you even stop a truck? And why, if you could just... follow it to a location where it was supposed to despense stuff to you?
  - jijijijij 1y ago
    > Either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully armed actors, during transit in Gaza

justin66 1y ago

Congratulations on discovering an easily identifyable lie.

s5300 1y ago

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mef51 1y ago

From the article: "An internal US government review found no evidence of widespread theft by Hamas of US-funded humanitarian aid in Gaza." Other reporting supports this. So what is going on is that the IDF are lying to justify their genocide. There is a massive propaganda machine at work to muddy the waters.

m-s-y 1y ago

the article also states that the US has looked into the reports of Hamas stealing the aid and found that none of the aid appears to have been stolen by anyone. given the current US administration and their hard-on for Israel, I can't imagine this is a faked report. if it were faked, it'd be to agree with Israel

mupuff1234 1y ago

Kinda silly logic, access to calories doesn't mean someone has to be obese. Not saying that the claim is true, just that your logic is faulty.

YZF 1y ago

Have a look here: https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-photo-gallery-hostages-eeb1fd13f239c33f9d35b8d88d2a7034 https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-photo-gallery-hostag... Plenty of Hamas fighters looking in pretty great shape.

Ozzie_osman 1y ago

> Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all. This claim is made by supporters of the war _outside of Israel_ for external consumption. If you look at what the Israeli cabinet, generals and politicians are saying for internal consumption... it's pretty deliberate.

throwaway290 1y ago
UN data, compare numbers "arrived" and "intercepted": https://app.un2720.org/tracking https://app.un2720.org/tracking are you saying un supports the war then?
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  Intercepted is defined as "either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully by armed actors, during transit in Gaza." Some fraction of that may be Hamas. But we have no evidence of that.
  - throwaway290 1y ago
    I guess we may never know. But hey, between hungry peasants and buff hamas soldiers we do know who has the guns. This is a truck. You are a hungry person. How do you even stop a truck? And why, if you could just... follow it to a location where it was supposed to despense stuff to you?
- jijijijij 1y ago
  > Either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully armed actors, during transit in Gaza