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The same qualifications his friend had when he made his self-diagnosis

by bena 1y ago

awesome_dude 1y ago
So you agree then that the story was rubbish
- bena 1y ago
  No, he pointed out how over-saturation of autism awareness has resulted in people self-diagnosing as a way to absolve themselves of shitty behavior. My step-son is diagnosed. He is on the spectrum. He was non-verbal for longer than most children and low-verbal for years after that. He has fine-motor challenges and operates on an emotional level behind those of his peers. If he's being an ass, we let him know. He knows his condition is not an excuse for his behavior. He needs to know how to cope with and navigate the world around him. Autism awareness and advocacy is about not shaming people for wearing ear protection in public. It's about recognizing that texture aversion is a thing. It's about knowing to extend grace when appropriate. It's not about letting people be shitty. He may be autistic, but he does not get to interrupt us. He does not get to derail conversations into his interests. He does not get to ignore his hygiene. Instead, we try to teach him to be patient. To be polite. Strategies to make necessary things a part of his routine. The biggest difference is that we do these things with compassion and with the realization that some things are more difficult for him. Rather than what we did in the past, which was browbeat autistic people into masking.
  - awesome_dude 1y ago
    No, he made a diagnosis - neither party appear to be in a position to do so. You can disagree with someone's self diagnosis all you like, but there's absolutely NO WAY for you to make a diagnosis yourself unless you are actually qualified to do so. Please try to understand the difference.
    - bena 1y ago
      You only questioned the poster's qualifications, never the subject's. Only now are you even acknowledging that it could be in error as well. And without an actual medical diagnosis, we shouldn't treat him as autistic.
      - awesome_dude 1y ago
        Oh, how terrible, I called out the posted directly on their behaviour instead of addressing the "friend" who it is *claimed" had done X, Y Z. There, you have your out for your poor responses.
        bena 1y ago
        Why are you being so aggressive?
        lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
        Not to justify it but 1) your responses have been misunderstanding their point, even after a good explanation of it and 2) they had some of their comments down voted (IMO, probably because of how they expressed their perspective rather than because of what it is). So it is (or rather, seems like to me) a double whammy psychology of having their point be demonstrably misunderstood while it is also (seemingly) being rejected by down votes. (Again, just explaining, not justifying.) (Also, I cannot help but notice the irony(?) of this misunderstanding and the necessity of this explanation in a thread on a post about autism. No shade to anyone, just making the observation.)
        bena 1y ago
        First of all, I firmly believe you're a sock puppet. Where is the "good explanation"? The first thing he did was demand qualifications of the poster. Exclaiming he's diagnosing something. He started aggressive. I then pointed out that his friend also made his self-diagnosis with the same qualifications. He then got all huffy and basically said "So you agree his story is rubbish", which is also rather aggressive. And all through this, he's been dismissive and condescending to people. And everyone else has been rather polite to him even with his attitude. And I don't think anyone is misunderstanding him. Everyone acknowledges his point that the poster is likely not a qualified professional. However, they are pointing out that neither is his friend. And I also pointed out, diagnosis or not, there's no excuse for being an asshole. Being autistic does not give you carte blanche to treat people like shit. So it's more like his refusal to understand everyone else's point. And likely why he's getting downvoted. But that shouldn't matter. So, you know, stay awesome, dude.

The same qualifications his friend had when he made his self-diagnosis

by bena 1y ago

The same qualifications his friend had when he made his self-diagnosis

awesome_dude 1y ago

So you agree then that the story was rubbish

bena 1y ago
No, he pointed out how over-saturation of autism awareness has resulted in people self-diagnosing as a way to absolve themselves of shitty behavior. My step-son is diagnosed. He is on the spectrum. He was non-verbal for longer than most children and low-verbal for years after that. He has fine-motor challenges and operates on an emotional level behind those of his peers. If he's being an ass, we let him know. He knows his condition is not an excuse for his behavior. He needs to know how to cope with and navigate the world around him. Autism awareness and advocacy is about not shaming people for wearing ear protection in public. It's about recognizing that texture aversion is a thing. It's about knowing to extend grace when appropriate. It's not about letting people be shitty. He may be autistic, but he does not get to interrupt us. He does not get to derail conversations into his interests. He does not get to ignore his hygiene. Instead, we try to teach him to be patient. To be polite. Strategies to make necessary things a part of his routine. The biggest difference is that we do these things with compassion and with the realization that some things are more difficult for him. Rather than what we did in the past, which was browbeat autistic people into masking.
- awesome_dude 1y ago
  No, he made a diagnosis - neither party appear to be in a position to do so. You can disagree with someone's self diagnosis all you like, but there's absolutely NO WAY for you to make a diagnosis yourself unless you are actually qualified to do so. Please try to understand the difference.
  - bena 1y ago
    You only questioned the poster's qualifications, never the subject's. Only now are you even acknowledging that it could be in error as well. And without an actual medical diagnosis, we shouldn't treat him as autistic.
    - awesome_dude 1y ago
      Oh, how terrible, I called out the posted directly on their behaviour instead of addressing the "friend" who it is *claimed" had done X, Y Z. There, you have your out for your poor responses.
      - bena 1y ago
        Why are you being so aggressive?
        lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
        Not to justify it but 1) your responses have been misunderstanding their point, even after a good explanation of it and 2) they had some of their comments down voted (IMO, probably because of how they expressed their perspective rather than because of what it is). So it is (or rather, seems like to me) a double whammy psychology of having their point be demonstrably misunderstood while it is also (seemingly) being rejected by down votes. (Again, just explaining, not justifying.) (Also, I cannot help but notice the irony(?) of this misunderstanding and the necessity of this explanation in a thread on a post about autism. No shade to anyone, just making the observation.)
        bena 1y ago
        First of all, I firmly believe you're a sock puppet. Where is the "good explanation"? The first thing he did was demand qualifications of the poster. Exclaiming he's diagnosing something. He started aggressive. I then pointed out that his friend also made his self-diagnosis with the same qualifications. He then got all huffy and basically said "So you agree his story is rubbish", which is also rather aggressive. And all through this, he's been dismissive and condescending to people. And everyone else has been rather polite to him even with his attitude. And I don't think anyone is misunderstanding him. Everyone acknowledges his point that the poster is likely not a qualified professional. However, they are pointing out that neither is his friend. And I also pointed out, diagnosis or not, there's no excuse for being an asshole. Being autistic does not give you carte blanche to treat people like shit. So it's more like his refusal to understand everyone else's point. And likely why he's getting downvoted. But that shouldn't matter. So, you know, stay awesome, dude.