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Perhaps Microsoft should never have advertised that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows; see for example > https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32658

Perhaps Microsoft should never have advertised that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows; see for example > https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32658340 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32658340 "Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software. His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner". Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said. [...] In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software. "Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows. 'No Windows 11' The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10. "There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft." EDIT: Another article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsof...

gruez 1y ago
>Perhaps Microsoft should never have advertised that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows, and there won't be a Windows 11; see for example It really wasn't. Basically all the claims of "Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows" traces back to that quote, but that was basically an offhand comment by a low to mid level salesperson (think account "executive"), and was not substantiated by other communications from microsoft, contrary to what your article claims. "ongoing manner" doesn't mean "forever". Microsoft also had clearly outlined lifecycle policies that certainly did not promise forever support.
- aleph_minus_one 1y ago
  If Microsoft didn't agree with this interpretation, they would have immediately published a clarification.
- vel0city 1y ago
  And he was doing it while giving developers a presentation how to code for live tiles, suggesting that live tiles are here to stay forever.
high_na_euv 1y ago
Lets be honest with yourself - it is irrelevant
- aleph_minus_one 1y ago
  > Lets be honest with yourself - it is irrelevant In Germany, people took this marketing very seriously - and that is why an insane amount of people there are furious about Microsoft's broken promise and the cancellation of support for Windows 10.
  - zelphirkalt 1y ago
    Germany is also the country, where ticket machines for train tickets ran windows xp after 2015 or so. Might still use that stuff. Not surprised at all.
ndiddy 1y ago
Microsoft listed the Windows 10 end-of-life date on their site when the OS was released in 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20151220135519/http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle https://web.archive.org/web/20151220135519/http://windows.mi... I think it's more likely that the devrel guy who made that remark was just being overly enthusiastic about the OS getting feature updates over time. For some computers, that policy meant that they didn't even get the promised 10-year support duration, as the footnote on that page mentions: > Updates are cumulative, with each update built upon all of the updates that preceded it. A device needs to install the latest update to remain supported. Updates may include new features, fixes (security and/or non-security), or a combination of both. Not all features in an update will work on all devices. A device may not be able to receive updates if the device hardware is incompatible, lacking current drivers, or otherwise outside of the Original Equipment Manufacturer’s (“OEM”) support period. Update availability may vary, for example by country, region, network connectivity, mobile operator (e.g., for cellular-capable devices), or hardware capabilities (including, e.g., free disk space).

gruez 1y ago

>Perhaps Microsoft should never have advertised that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows, and there won't be a Windows 11; see for example It really wasn't. Basically all the claims of "Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows" traces back to that quote, but that was basically an offhand comment by a low to mid level salesperson (think account "executive"), and was not substantiated by other communications from microsoft, contrary to what your article claims. "ongoing manner" doesn't mean "forever". Microsoft also had clearly outlined lifecycle policies that certainly did not promise forever support.

aleph_minus_one 1y ago
If Microsoft didn't agree with this interpretation, they would have immediately published a clarification.
vel0city 1y ago
And he was doing it while giving developers a presentation how to code for live tiles, suggesting that live tiles are here to stay forever.

high_na_euv 1y ago

Lets be honest with yourself - it is irrelevant

aleph_minus_one 1y ago
> Lets be honest with yourself - it is irrelevant In Germany, people took this marketing very seriously - and that is why an insane amount of people there are furious about Microsoft's broken promise and the cancellation of support for Windows 10.
- zelphirkalt 1y ago
  Germany is also the country, where ticket machines for train tickets ran windows xp after 2015 or so. Might still use that stuff. Not surprised at all.

ndiddy 1y ago

Microsoft listed the Windows 10 end-of-life date on their site when the OS was released in 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20151220135519/http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle https://web.archive.org/web/20151220135519/http://windows.mi... I think it's more likely that the devrel guy who made that remark was just being overly enthusiastic about the OS getting feature updates over time. For some computers, that policy meant that they didn't even get the promised 10-year support duration, as the footnote on that page mentions: > Updates are cumulative, with each update built upon all of the updates that preceded it. A device needs to install the latest update to remain supported. Updates may include new features, fixes (security and/or non-security), or a combination of both. Not all features in an update will work on all devices. A device may not be able to receive updates if the device hardware is incompatible, lacking current drivers, or otherwise outside of the Original Equipment Manufacturer’s (“OEM”) support period. Update availability may vary, for example by country, region, network connectivity, mobile operator (e.g., for cellular-capable devices), or hardware capabilities (including, e.g., free disk space).