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"Both the definition and charge of ethnic cleansing is often disputed, with some researchers including and others excluding coercive assimilation or mass killin

"Both the definition and charge of ethnic cleansing is often disputed, with some researchers including and others excluding coercive assimilation or mass killings as a means of depopulating an area of a particular group, or calling it a euphemism for genocide or cultural genocide." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

CerebralCerb 1y ago
-cide is a latin suffix that quite simply means "kill". Trying to call ethnic cleansing genocide is like calling divorce mariticide or moving away from home patricide. The correct latin term would be something like "expulsio gentium".
- pydry 1y ago
  Gazans are not being expelled though. Netanyahu's equivalent of the Nazi Madagascar Plan fell through, just like the Madagascar Plan did. His Plan B was the same as the Nazi Plan B: Genocide.
- rowanseymour 1y ago
  Raphael Lemkin, the guy who first coined the term "genocide", considered "cultural genocide" (the killing of a culture if you will), a central component of genocide. Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but people generally resist being ethnic cleansed, and so the perpetrators have to kill a lot of them.
  - boxed 1y ago
    Ok? And moving them will kill their culture magically? Come on.
boxed 1y ago
Notice the lack of "moving" in your quote. I'm not saying the moving isn't wrong, but it's a LONG way from gas chambers.
- rowanseymour 1y ago
  "moving people" is a horrific way to obscure what is happening in Gaza today
  - boxed 1y ago
    That's not what anyone said. I said that moving people is not genocide. Killing people is genocide. And sometimes one happens (like when all muslim states in the entire world moved out the jews into Israel) and that's not a genocide, and sometimes the other happens (when the nazis killed the jews) and that IS genocide. Trying to put an equivalence between those two things is idiotic. And if you DO that, then the arab world perpetrated a massive "genocide" in 1948, much bigger than what the Nazis did. See how crazy that is? Obviously that's not what happened!

CerebralCerb 1y ago

-cide is a latin suffix that quite simply means "kill". Trying to call ethnic cleansing genocide is like calling divorce mariticide or moving away from home patricide. The correct latin term would be something like "expulsio gentium".

pydry 1y ago
Gazans are not being expelled though. Netanyahu's equivalent of the Nazi Madagascar Plan fell through, just like the Madagascar Plan did. His Plan B was the same as the Nazi Plan B: Genocide.
rowanseymour 1y ago
Raphael Lemkin, the guy who first coined the term "genocide", considered "cultural genocide" (the killing of a culture if you will), a central component of genocide. Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but people generally resist being ethnic cleansed, and so the perpetrators have to kill a lot of them.
- boxed 1y ago
  Ok? And moving them will kill their culture magically? Come on.

boxed 1y ago

Notice the lack of "moving" in your quote. I'm not saying the moving isn't wrong, but it's a LONG way from gas chambers.

rowanseymour 1y ago
"moving people" is a horrific way to obscure what is happening in Gaza today
- boxed 1y ago
  That's not what anyone said. I said that moving people is not genocide. Killing people is genocide. And sometimes one happens (like when all muslim states in the entire world moved out the jews into Israel) and that's not a genocide, and sometimes the other happens (when the nazis killed the jews) and that IS genocide. Trying to put an equivalence between those two things is idiotic. And if you DO that, then the arab world perpetrated a massive "genocide" in 1948, much bigger than what the Nazis did. See how crazy that is? Obviously that's not what happened!