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>A foot of snow, black ice, a sand drift. What else, a meter of lava flow? Forest fire? Tsunami? Tornado? How about pick conditions where humans actually can d

>A foot of snow, black ice, a sand drift. What else, a meter of lava flow? Forest fire? Tsunami? Tornado? How about pick conditions where humans actually can drive.

throaway1988 1y ago
he’s describing conditions that exist for every area in the world that actually experiences winter!
- sejje 1y ago
  Most places clear the driving surface instead of leaving a foot of snow.
  - reaperducer 1y ago
    Guess who we know you've never lived in a place where it snows.
  - throaway1988 1y ago
    More like the whole world is covered with snow and they clear enough for you to drive on.
  - donatj 1y ago
    Eventually. I live in Minnesota and it can take until noon or later after a big snow for all the small roads to get cleared.
ModernMech 1y ago
Snow (maybe not a foot but enough to at least cover the lane markings), black ice and sand drifts people experience every day in the normal course of driving, so it's reasonable to expect driverless cars to be able to handle them. Forest fires, tsunamis, lava flows, and tornados are weather emergencies. I think it's a little more reasonable to not have expectations for driverless cars in those situations.
reaperducer 1y ago
Humans do drive when there's tornadoes. I can't count the hundreds of videos I've seen on TV over the decades of people driving home from work and seeing a tornado. I notice you conveniently left off "foot of snow" from your critique. Something that is perfectly ordinary "condition where humans actually drive." Many years, millions of Americans evacuate ahead of hurricanes. Does that not count? I, and hundreds of thousands of other people, have lived in places where sand drifts across roads are a thing. Also, sandstorms, dense fog, snert, ice storms, dust devils, and hundreds of other conditions in which "humans actually can [and do] drive." FSD is like AI: Picking the low-hanging fruit and calling it a "win."

>A foot of snow, black ice, a sand drift. What else, a meter of lava flow? Forest fire? Tsunami? Tornado? How about pick conditions where humans actually can drive.

throaway1988 1y ago

he’s describing conditions that exist for every area in the world that actually experiences winter!

sejje 1y ago
Most places clear the driving surface instead of leaving a foot of snow.
- reaperducer 1y ago
  Guess who we know you've never lived in a place where it snows.
- throaway1988 1y ago
  More like the whole world is covered with snow and they clear enough for you to drive on.
- donatj 1y ago
  Eventually. I live in Minnesota and it can take until noon or later after a big snow for all the small roads to get cleared.

ModernMech 1y ago

Snow (maybe not a foot but enough to at least cover the lane markings), black ice and sand drifts people experience every day in the normal course of driving, so it's reasonable to expect driverless cars to be able to handle them. Forest fires, tsunamis, lava flows, and tornados are weather emergencies. I think it's a little more reasonable to not have expectations for driverless cars in those situations.

reaperducer 1y ago

Humans do drive when there's tornadoes. I can't count the hundreds of videos I've seen on TV over the decades of people driving home from work and seeing a tornado. I notice you conveniently left off "foot of snow" from your critique. Something that is perfectly ordinary "condition where humans actually drive." Many years, millions of Americans evacuate ahead of hurricanes. Does that not count? I, and hundreds of thousands of other people, have lived in places where sand drifts across roads are a thing. Also, sandstorms, dense fog, snert, ice storms, dust devils, and hundreds of other conditions in which "humans actually can [and do] drive." FSD is like AI: Picking the low-hanging fruit and calling it a "win."