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I'd sooner pay for vscode, it's much faster even though it's an electron app. Good job Microsoft (rare)!
by zb3 1y ago
I'd sooner pay for vscode, it's much faster even though it's an electron app. Good job Microsoft (rare)!
- askonomm 1y agoVSCode has started to aggressively force its AI slop stuff down my throat, which has turned me off from using it. JetBrains, thus far, is much less aggressive with its AI offerings. And while yes, everything can be turned off, just like all the adware and spyware in Microsoft Windows can be turned off, I'm just not interested in using a product whose defaults are _this_ anti-consumer.
- zb3 1y agoCan't really agree since I use.. Gemini Code Assist there (obviously due to its generous free quota). GitHub copilot - at least in my case - needed to be manually configured, so I'm not sure which feature are you referring to.
- askonomm 1y agoI'm referring to NOT wanting AI in my code editor, nor any dialogs, sidebars, popups or ads of any kind for AI offerings.
- nunodonato 1y agoVSCode doesnt even come close to the features PHPStorm provides. It's fine if you prefer it, but the comparison is totally unbalanced.
- Y-bar 1y ago100% in agreement, but then again I often wish I could strip out like 60% of things in PHP Storm such as the database engine, AI stuff, docker integration, VCS client, or code-with-me which I never use and take up valuable interface and resources. I prefer specialised apps such as Sequel Ace, GitHub Desktop, Docker Desktop and such.
- jcurtis 1y agoMost of the things you listed are plugins which can be disabled in the plugin settings - certainly databases, docker & code-with-me.
- wiseowise 1y agoOP specifically mentioned performance ("faster").
- skydhash 1y agoJetbrains have a code indexer which is what slows things down at launch. After that, it’s fast. Also I have those things opened for days. Emacs’ uptime is 7 days now (I restarted it to revert a config changes, the mbp itself is up 35 days).
- wiseowise 1y agoVSCode with clangd is supersonic compared to CLion with clangd-indexer.
- kyriakos 1y agoIndexer only actually runs if you update the IDE, otherwise it does incremental update on the changed files, which even if you switched to a branch with many changes is usually instant (or too short to realise it's happening). They optimised indexing a lot over the years.
- cess11 1y agoYou're comparing apples and cars, making your comment kind of hard to interpret. Anyway, you should use vim instead.
- wiseowise 1y agoIntellij IDEs are notorious memory and CPU hogs. I can't recall a single time where I opened up Intellij and didn't feel any sluggishness or stutter. It's like a huge excavator that does the job, but in such inelegant way that it kills all the joy when you use it. VSCode/VSCodium with focused extension fly compared to any Intellij IDE.
- skydhash 1y agoCode indexing and static analysis are not cheap. Which is what you usually want in an IDE.
- tehbeard 1y agoI've had phpstorm get stuck indexing until I shut the app down, no matter what Stack overflow voodoo I tried to break the cycle. Vscode and intelephense handled the same project without breaking a sweat. I've had much better experience with IntelliJ. No matter the maven or gradle project I've thrown at it, it just works.
- zb3 1y agoI have code indexing in vscode (in cpp at least) and it's still faster. In contrast, Android Studio makes my laptop fan go crazy even after opening a hello world app..
- wiseowise 1y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45450870 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45450870
- cess11 1y agoThat's not my experience. File access seems to be the main source of sluggishness, and it's temporary. What operating system are you using?