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> ...and a small book he kept, written primarily in an invented or "asemic" script, meaning it is unreadable or lacking specific semantic content. Learned some
by palmotea 1y ago
> ...and a small book he kept, written primarily in an invented or "asemic" script, meaning it is unreadable or lacking specific semantic content.
Learned something new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asemic_writing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asemic_writing:
> ...asemic writing distinguishes itself among traditions of abstract art is in the asemic author's use of gestural constraint, and the retention of physical characteristics of writing such as lines and symbols.
Basically stuff that looks like writing but actually isn't. Another example is Xu Bing's A Book from the Sky, which is composed of things that look just like Chinese characters to someone who can't read them, but aren't.
- actionfromafar 1y agoI wonder if an LLM can "translate" that book into... something. And if so, how faithful to the original is the translation?
- DontchaKnowit 1y agoWhat? Can we start banning these kinds of "I wonder if an LLM" comments?
- actionfromafar 1y agoI actually thought it was an interesting thought, if the "bullshitness" will hold between "translations" or if it will hallucinate something which "makes more sense" than the original. Or if it will just refuse because the chinese letters just aren't close enough. I'm probably too bored. :)
- pavel_lishin 1y agoYou cannot extract a signal that isn't there.
- duskwuff 1y agoThere's also a technical side to that problem - you can't communicate the content of that book to a LLM as text, because it's made up of invented characters. There's no standard way to represent them to a computer.
- palmotea 1y ago> I wonder if an LLM can "translate" that book into... something. Yes, of course. LLMs are bullshit machines. > And if so, how faithful to the original is the translation? Well, as faithful as total bullshit ever is.
- duskwuff 1y agoAnother Western example is Luigi Serafini's Codex Seraphinianus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Seraphinianus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Seraphinianus