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I prefer my old iPhone 8 to the new models, but without the updates it's no longer useful. I was waiting for 4th Gen SE but it never came, but in practice it's

I prefer my old iPhone 8 to the new models, but without the updates it's no longer useful. I was waiting for 4th Gen SE but it never came, but in practice it's the same width and less than 2 centimetres taller. If I could have a shorter phone (like an iPhone 8 without the bezel) that would be amazing. I tried small Androids in the past, had a Sony Xperia compact (Z1?) and loved it until it very literally fell apart.

iszomer 1y ago
Have you looked into ikko's kickstarter called the mind one?
- antonyh 1y ago
  I'm somewhat allergic to Kickstarter for things I have to trust - phones fall firmly into that category. That said, a square phone is somehow highly appealing even if it looks goofy to use.
red369 1y ago
Have you considered the iPhone 13 mini? It's not the size of an iPhone 8 without the bezel, but it is smaller than the iPhone 8 (except that it is 1/3 of a mm thicker). You probably already know, but the 3rd Gen SE (same size as iPhone 8) and the 13 mini are both still receiving the latest updates.
- antonyh 1y ago
  I would if I could buy new, either of these would be good options. I always buy new and run on a long cycle rather than pre-owned.
  - red369 1y ago
    In the US, Apple still release refurbished iPhone 13 Minis every now and again. In case you haven't heard, I believe they are new battery, new screen, new case. Basically a new phone, but with a plain white box. There are sites that allow you to receive notifications when they are available again. Apple may have finally stopped selling the 13 Mini - I don't follow it anymore. For a while, I keen enough to get one, I was going to use a freight-forwarder to ship one from the US, but they didn't come up while I was waiting and when my phone died, I was in a hurry so I bough a used iPhone 13 mini instead of waiting. 6 months ago, I submitted to HN thinking it would be helpful to the people holding out for one. The submission was flagged, so I haven't tried again - I suppose it just seemed like advertising. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43337518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43337518 If you're outside the US, it's a lot harder to get hold of those Apple refurbished phones. Actually, I heard something I found interesting when I was buying a different phone in one of the shops that refurbish themselves. They had an Apple-refurbished iPhone 11 - basically a new iPhone 11, around a year ago! The person at the shop said that when the devices get really old, Apple start selling their refurbished phones to those kind of shops, instead of selling them on their own website. They thought it would be a year or two before iPhone 13s turned up that route. I don't know much about how accurate any of that was, but I've always wanted to buy a refurbished phone from Apple so I found it interesting.

iszomer 1y ago

Have you looked into ikko's kickstarter called the mind one?

antonyh 1y ago
I'm somewhat allergic to Kickstarter for things I have to trust - phones fall firmly into that category. That said, a square phone is somehow highly appealing even if it looks goofy to use.

red369 1y ago

Have you considered the iPhone 13 mini? It's not the size of an iPhone 8 without the bezel, but it is smaller than the iPhone 8 (except that it is 1/3 of a mm thicker). You probably already know, but the 3rd Gen SE (same size as iPhone 8) and the 13 mini are both still receiving the latest updates.

antonyh 1y ago
I would if I could buy new, either of these would be good options. I always buy new and run on a long cycle rather than pre-owned.
- red369 1y ago
  In the US, Apple still release refurbished iPhone 13 Minis every now and again. In case you haven't heard, I believe they are new battery, new screen, new case. Basically a new phone, but with a plain white box. There are sites that allow you to receive notifications when they are available again. Apple may have finally stopped selling the 13 Mini - I don't follow it anymore. For a while, I keen enough to get one, I was going to use a freight-forwarder to ship one from the US, but they didn't come up while I was waiting and when my phone died, I was in a hurry so I bough a used iPhone 13 mini instead of waiting. 6 months ago, I submitted to HN thinking it would be helpful to the people holding out for one. The submission was flagged, so I haven't tried again - I suppose it just seemed like advertising. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43337518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43337518 If you're outside the US, it's a lot harder to get hold of those Apple refurbished phones. Actually, I heard something I found interesting when I was buying a different phone in one of the shops that refurbish themselves. They had an Apple-refurbished iPhone 11 - basically a new iPhone 11, around a year ago! The person at the shop said that when the devices get really old, Apple start selling their refurbished phones to those kind of shops, instead of selling them on their own website. They thought it would be a year or two before iPhone 13s turned up that route. I don't know much about how accurate any of that was, but I've always wanted to buy a refurbished phone from Apple so I found it interesting.