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> Just think about how much more effective advertisements are going to be when LLMs start to tell you what to buy based on which advertiser gave the most money

> Just think about how much more effective advertisements are going to be when LLMs start to tell you what to buy based on which advertiser gave the most money to the company. Optimistic view: maybe product quality becomes an actually good metric again as the LLM will care about giving good products. Yea, I know, I said it's an optimistic view.

echelon 1y ago
Optimistic view #1: we'll have AI butlers between the pane of glass to filter all ads and negativity. Optimistic view #2: there is no moat, and AI is "P=NP". Everything can be disrupted.
tbrownaw 1y ago
What does it mean for the language model to "care" about something? How would that matter against the operator selling advertisers the right to instruct it about what the relevant facts are?
- AlecSchueler 1y ago
  I think it might be like when Grok was programmed to talk about white genocide and to support Musk's views. It always shoehorned that stuff in but when you asked about it it readily explained that it seemed like disinformation and openly admitted that Musk had a history of using his business to exert political sway. It's maybe not really "caring" but they are harder to cajole than just "advertise this for us."
  - bespokedevelopr 1y ago
    For now anyways. There’s a lot of effort being placed into putting up guardrails to make the model respond based on instructions and not deviate. I remember the crazy agents.md files that came out from I believe Anthropic with repeated instructions on how to respond. Clearly it’s a pain point they want to fix. Once that is resolved then guiding the model to only recommend or mention specific brands will flow right in.
    - fragmede 1y ago
      Golden Gate Claude says they know how to do that already. https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude
bananapub 1y ago
large language models don't "care" about anything, but the humans operating openai definitely care a lot about you making them affiliate marketing money
rurp 1y ago
Has a tech company ever taken 10s or 100s of billions of dollars from investors and not tried to a optimize revenue at the expense of users? Maybe it's happened but I literally can't think of a single one. Given that the people and companies funding the current AI hype so heavily overlap with the same people who created the current crop of unpleasant money printing machines I have zero faith this time will be different.

echelon 1y ago

Optimistic view #1: we'll have AI butlers between the pane of glass to filter all ads and negativity. Optimistic view #2: there is no moat, and AI is "P=NP". Everything can be disrupted.

tbrownaw 1y ago

What does it mean for the language model to "care" about something? How would that matter against the operator selling advertisers the right to instruct it about what the relevant facts are?

AlecSchueler 1y ago
I think it might be like when Grok was programmed to talk about white genocide and to support Musk's views. It always shoehorned that stuff in but when you asked about it it readily explained that it seemed like disinformation and openly admitted that Musk had a history of using his business to exert political sway. It's maybe not really "caring" but they are harder to cajole than just "advertise this for us."
- bespokedevelopr 1y ago
  For now anyways. There’s a lot of effort being placed into putting up guardrails to make the model respond based on instructions and not deviate. I remember the crazy agents.md files that came out from I believe Anthropic with repeated instructions on how to respond. Clearly it’s a pain point they want to fix. Once that is resolved then guiding the model to only recommend or mention specific brands will flow right in.
  - fragmede 1y ago
    Golden Gate Claude says they know how to do that already. https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude

bananapub 1y ago

large language models don't "care" about anything, but the humans operating openai definitely care a lot about you making them affiliate marketing money

rurp 1y ago

Has a tech company ever taken 10s or 100s of billions of dollars from investors and not tried to a optimize revenue at the expense of users? Maybe it's happened but I literally can't think of a single one. Given that the people and companies funding the current AI hype so heavily overlap with the same people who created the current crop of unpleasant money printing machines I have zero faith this time will be different.