> I'm starting from real world governments and their real world behaviors, not fantasy. In the real world, many dictatorships have formed without UBI. Yet you

> I'm starting from real world governments and their real world behaviors, not fantasy. In the real world, many dictatorships have formed without UBI. Yet you regard UBI as a certain step towards it and even pretend its a hard argument against it, meanwhile the problems root causes you are concerned about are entirely detached from UBI. You are simply projecting. I cant state it any more clearly. You are a lost cause.