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> Playing into the belief that it is either side (on this specific issue) just furthers that problem. Watch the rhetoric: Republicans blame Democrats, Democrats

> Playing into the belief that it is either side (on this specific issue) just furthers that problem. Watch the rhetoric: Republicans blame Democrats, Democrats blame Republicans. Playing into your game of "They're both at fault!" removes the fact that one has consistently reneged on their promises to the other party and acts in bad faith consistently. Or like Trump refusing to release money that COngress had already appropriated. Centrism isn't enlightened, but foolish.

godelski 1y ago
> Playing into your game You may have noticed I stressed this particular issue and Funding the government There's a time and place for partisan politics but funding the government is not one of those. > Centrism isn't enlightened, but foolish. And how has this philosophy worked out? For someone who seems to hate Trump so much you really seem to like increasing this support base. There's a whole country of people with varying needs and issues. You can't put everything under one clean umbrella. So why don't you start listening to what people are saying instead of responding to what you heard?
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  >You may have noticed I stressed this particular issue and Funding the government Okay. But we don't live in a vacuum. It's no shocker that the party lines can't compromise. That didn't come out of nowhere yesterday, at the beginning of 2025, nor even at the beginning of 2016. You create a culture of tribal lines and it seeps into every aspect of your political navigation. The last straws of all the refusals to allocate congress funds, breaking court orders, and tanking the economy in trade wars definitely means some that Dems are playing hardball too. >And how has this philosophy worked out? It passed the big beautiful bill and kicked the can down the road 6 months when we almost shut down in March but "compromised". The ball isn't just in the GOP's court, they own the entire stadium. So, not too well.
  - godelski 1y ago
    > Okay. But we don't live in a vacuum. I'll repeat myself >> There's a time and place for partisan politics but funding the government is not one of those. I'm not oblivious to what is going on. But you recognize that the budget is kinda a big deal, right? It's not the kind of thing we the constituents should let be partisan. Remember, they still get paid. WE are the ones that face the repercussions. Every day Americans go without paychecks, basic services, etc. The problem here is that they've had months to figure this shit out. It's not like a budget comes out of nowhere. You have a whole year (arguably more) to figure out what things you'll compromise on or not. Look, I'll disclose that I vote left. I'm actually glad the dems are playing hard ball and I don't think their demands are unreasonable while I think the Repubs are silly spending decades talking about slashing the budget while adding more to it. But that also doesn't mean that both sides can't be royally fucking it up. I'll eat a moldy sandwich over a turd pretending to be a chicken nugget but aren't we tired of having to choose between two shitty things? One being significantly worse than the other doesn't make it any less bad. We can't begin to change the situation while we can't acknowledge this basic fact. I'm complaining about people not listening because anytime someone mentions they're fed up with having only shitty options someone complains about "enlightened centrism" or some other idiotic label that isn't actually an accurate description of the person complaining. It just enables more of this tribalism. I'll continue the rant to add that this whole Trump situation was the Dems fault. They keep falling for the Repubs bait. We'll spend all day talking about issues that affect very few people while ignoring those that affect many more. I don't like that Repubs attack trans people, but it is also bait. I mean come on, there's less than 3 million of them in the US. It's less than 1% of the population by the highest counts. Meanwhile there's 14 million US children who aren't getting enough food. So why is there such a disproportionate amount of time given to one issue over the other, especially given how much easier it is to agree on one? We can talk about both. But seriously, is talking about trans athletes or gender affirming care for less than 3 million people more of an important issue than 14 million starving children? Don't let them control the conversations. They bait because they know we care and because of it they can turn it to talk about whatever they want. So stop this fucking tribalism and feed the god damn children
    - johnnyanmac 1y ago

godelski 1y ago

> Playing into your game You may have noticed I stressed this particular issue and Funding the government There's a time and place for partisan politics but funding the government is not one of those. > Centrism isn't enlightened, but foolish. And how has this philosophy worked out? For someone who seems to hate Trump so much you really seem to like increasing this support base. There's a whole country of people with varying needs and issues. You can't put everything under one clean umbrella. So why don't you start listening to what people are saying instead of responding to what you heard?

johnnyanmac 1y ago
>You may have noticed I stressed this particular issue and Funding the government Okay. But we don't live in a vacuum. It's no shocker that the party lines can't compromise. That didn't come out of nowhere yesterday, at the beginning of 2025, nor even at the beginning of 2016. You create a culture of tribal lines and it seeps into every aspect of your political navigation. The last straws of all the refusals to allocate congress funds, breaking court orders, and tanking the economy in trade wars definitely means some that Dems are playing hardball too. >And how has this philosophy worked out? It passed the big beautiful bill and kicked the can down the road 6 months when we almost shut down in March but "compromised". The ball isn't just in the GOP's court, they own the entire stadium. So, not too well.
- godelski 1y ago
  > Okay. But we don't live in a vacuum. I'll repeat myself >> There's a time and place for partisan politics but funding the government is not one of those. I'm not oblivious to what is going on. But you recognize that the budget is kinda a big deal, right? It's not the kind of thing we the constituents should let be partisan. Remember, they still get paid. WE are the ones that face the repercussions. Every day Americans go without paychecks, basic services, etc. The problem here is that they've had months to figure this shit out. It's not like a budget comes out of nowhere. You have a whole year (arguably more) to figure out what things you'll compromise on or not. Look, I'll disclose that I vote left. I'm actually glad the dems are playing hard ball and I don't think their demands are unreasonable while I think the Repubs are silly spending decades talking about slashing the budget while adding more to it. But that also doesn't mean that both sides can't be royally fucking it up. I'll eat a moldy sandwich over a turd pretending to be a chicken nugget but aren't we tired of having to choose between two shitty things? One being significantly worse than the other doesn't make it any less bad. We can't begin to change the situation while we can't acknowledge this basic fact. I'm complaining about people not listening because anytime someone mentions they're fed up with having only shitty options someone complains about "enlightened centrism" or some other idiotic label that isn't actually an accurate description of the person complaining. It just enables more of this tribalism. I'll continue the rant to add that this whole Trump situation was the Dems fault. They keep falling for the Repubs bait. We'll spend all day talking about issues that affect very few people while ignoring those that affect many more. I don't like that Repubs attack trans people, but it is also bait. I mean come on, there's less than 3 million of them in the US. It's less than 1% of the population by the highest counts. Meanwhile there's 14 million US children who aren't getting enough food. So why is there such a disproportionate amount of time given to one issue over the other, especially given how much easier it is to agree on one? We can talk about both. But seriously, is talking about trans athletes or gender affirming care for less than 3 million people more of an important issue than 14 million starving children? Don't let them control the conversations. They bait because they know we care and because of it they can turn it to talk about whatever they want. So stop this fucking tribalism and feed the god damn children
  - johnnyanmac 1y ago