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Spain is actually one of the countries with the most solar power generation in the EU It's also the country with the highest solar power potential https://en.

Spain is actually one of the countries with the most solar power generation in the EU It's also the country with the highest solar power potential https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_the_European_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_the_European_...

lomase 1y ago
Some months ago in Spain the price of solar energy became negative and minutes later there was a blackout. Some people like gred say is because too much solar energy is a problem. In my, uneducated, opinion it was a market failure.
gred 1y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackou...
- lentil_soup 1y ago
  yes, I live in Spain. Still don't get the cryptic comment, though, are you claiming Spain will get more blackouts because the EU increases solar energy? that the EU will get the blackouts? that solar energy causes blackouts?
  - alecco 1y ago
    Solar, and renewables in general, are very unstable. You need nuclear or fossil to stabilize the grid. From that page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackout#Investigations_of_potential_causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackou... I'm pro-solar, but by EU politicians sugar-coating it things are getting out of control. Worst part, it seems there were warnings for months. But since it was raised by the opposition they were ignored.
  - gred 1y ago
    See sibling comment. Seguimos siendo un país de gitanos que no se ha adaptado a las necesidades infraestructurales, organizacionales, legales o sociales de las renovables. I'm bullish on solar in the long-term, but I expect further problems here (including outages) in the short- to mid-term. I'd love to be wrong on this, though. BTW, with a name like "lentil_soup" how could you not live in Spain? ;-)

lomase 1y ago

Some months ago in Spain the price of solar energy became negative and minutes later there was a blackout. Some people like gred say is because too much solar energy is a problem. In my, uneducated, opinion it was a market failure.

gred 1y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackou...

lentil_soup 1y ago
yes, I live in Spain. Still don't get the cryptic comment, though, are you claiming Spain will get more blackouts because the EU increases solar energy? that the EU will get the blackouts? that solar energy causes blackouts?
- alecco 1y ago
  Solar, and renewables in general, are very unstable. You need nuclear or fossil to stabilize the grid. From that page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackout#Investigations_of_potential_causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackou... I'm pro-solar, but by EU politicians sugar-coating it things are getting out of control. Worst part, it seems there were warnings for months. But since it was raised by the opposition they were ignored.
- gred 1y ago
  See sibling comment. Seguimos siendo un país de gitanos que no se ha adaptado a las necesidades infraestructurales, organizacionales, legales o sociales de las renovables. I'm bullish on solar in the long-term, but I expect further problems here (including outages) in the short- to mid-term. I'd love to be wrong on this, though. BTW, with a name like "lentil_soup" how could you not live in Spain? ;-)