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Trump is more popular than ever. Hegseth is incredibly well respected amongst combat vets.

johnnyanmac 1y ago
By what metric? Show statistics, not your personal feelings. https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Pete_Hegseth https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public_figu... I'll even ask Gemini if that's your authority on matters. 8 don't see any metric where your statement is sound.
- ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
  Elected officials aren't voted in by "approval rating", but by their popularity vs other candidates. "Approval rating" is not a real KPI. The next poll of Trump's popularity will be the midterms. Until then all both of us have are feelings.
  - AnimalMuppet 1y ago
    Dude, you said "more popular than ever". When questioned, you say "all we have are feelings"? That's a pretty weak answer, especially when the other guy's presenting actual evidence...
    - ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
      The GP gave statistics about approval ratings, but nobody is elected on their approval rating, so I wouldn’t call that “evidence”. Elected officials are elected based on votes vs an opposing candidate. In other words popularity vs approval rating. The first test of Trump’s popularity will be in the 2026 midterms.
      - ethbr1 1y ago
        By your logic, there's no way to measure popularity between elections. Ergo: Trump can only be said to be heisen/un/popular until the wave function collapses in the next election. Which means your original statement >> Trump is more popular than ever. Hegseth is incredibly well respected amongst combat vets. isn't valid. (Per what you claim to believe about the measurability of politician popularity)
        ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
        >Until then all both of us have are feelings Yeah man that's exactly what I said. >Elected Officials Hegseth isn't an elected official, so nothing I said about elections is applicable to him. I did make a claim about Hegseth being "well respected by combat vets" which you will notice is different from both "approval rating" and "popularity" and also not at all relevant to the YouGov poll cited above.
        jrflowers 1y ago
        I love this exchange because you reject the notion of approval ratings and also insist that you have objective knowledge about popularity. It is great to see somebody seriously argue “the only true reality is the one that I, specifically me, imagine in my head” like this sort of stuff is exactly what the internet is made for
        ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
        >Until then all both of us have are feelings Literally I said the opposite
        jrflowers 1y ago
        Exactly. All we have is your feelings because approval rating polls either do not exist or are wrong according to you. I’m guessing it’s something like this page doesn’t exist https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump... This page is wrong https://www.reuters.com/data/trumps-approval-rating-2025-01-21/ https://www.reuters.com/data/trumps-approval-rating-2025-01-... This page exists but they actually just meant to write “more popular than ever” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-appro... This page doesn’t exist https://apnews.com/projects/polling-tracker/ https://apnews.com/projects/polling-tracker/ And these are just made up https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration_second_term/trump_approval_index_history_second_term#google_vignette https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/tru... https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congres... https://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/ https://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/ We know this is true because the guy is more popular than ever. It’s written right there on the internet. People don’t just post lies on the internet, that would mess it up for everybody

By what metric? Show statistics, not your personal feelings. https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Pete_Hegseth https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public_figu... I'll even ask Gemini if that's your authority on matters. 8 don't see any metric where your statement is sound.

ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
Elected officials aren't voted in by "approval rating", but by their popularity vs other candidates. "Approval rating" is not a real KPI. The next poll of Trump's popularity will be the midterms. Until then all both of us have are feelings.
- AnimalMuppet 1y ago
  Dude, you said "more popular than ever". When questioned, you say "all we have are feelings"? That's a pretty weak answer, especially when the other guy's presenting actual evidence...
  - ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
    The GP gave statistics about approval ratings, but nobody is elected on their approval rating, so I wouldn’t call that “evidence”. Elected officials are elected based on votes vs an opposing candidate. In other words popularity vs approval rating. The first test of Trump’s popularity will be in the 2026 midterms.
    - ethbr1 1y ago
      By your logic, there's no way to measure popularity between elections. Ergo: Trump can only be said to be heisen/un/popular until the wave function collapses in the next election. Which means your original statement >> Trump is more popular than ever. Hegseth is incredibly well respected amongst combat vets. isn't valid. (Per what you claim to believe about the measurability of politician popularity)
      - ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
        >Until then all both of us have are feelings Yeah man that's exactly what I said. >Elected Officials Hegseth isn't an elected official, so nothing I said about elections is applicable to him. I did make a claim about Hegseth being "well respected by combat vets" which you will notice is different from both "approval rating" and "popularity" and also not at all relevant to the YouGov poll cited above.
        jrflowers 1y ago
        I love this exchange because you reject the notion of approval ratings and also insist that you have objective knowledge about popularity. It is great to see somebody seriously argue “the only true reality is the one that I, specifically me, imagine in my head” like this sort of stuff is exactly what the internet is made for
        ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
        >Until then all both of us have are feelings Literally I said the opposite
        jrflowers 1y ago
        Exactly. All we have is your feelings because approval rating polls either do not exist or are wrong according to you. I’m guessing it’s something like this page doesn’t exist https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump... This page is wrong https://www.reuters.com/data/trumps-approval-rating-2025-01-21/ https://www.reuters.com/data/trumps-approval-rating-2025-01-... This page exists but they actually just meant to write “more popular than ever” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-appro... This page doesn’t exist https://apnews.com/projects/polling-tracker/ https://apnews.com/projects/polling-tracker/ And these are just made up https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration_second_term/trump_approval_index_history_second_term#google_vignette https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/tru... https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congres... https://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/ https://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/ We know this is true because the guy is more popular than ever. It’s written right there on the internet. People don’t just post lies on the internet, that would mess it up for everybody