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I suspect you're just not aware of how others consider the way you choose to speak: https://archive.is/WydpC https://archive.is/WydpC

labrador 1y ago
I'm very aware of how I speak which is why I have a good track record of not offending people. I change with the times e.g. I no longer refer to a car transmission as a tranny. So I know tinker as a slur is archaic. I've never heard anyone use it as a slur and think it would be counter productive to revive it as one.
- closewith 1y ago
  You not hearing it doesn’t make it archaic. Tinker is still thrown at Travellers in Ireland, the UK, Australia, and elsewhere. Calling it “dead” just shows you your bubble, not reality.
  - labrador 1y ago
    Thinking Machines Lab and I are in Silicon Valley California. Are you suggesting that we should follow your provincial rules?
    - closewith 1y ago
      Read back your comment and apply it to an ethnic slur common in your locality.
      - labrador 1y ago
        We find the c-word c*nt highly offensive but that doesn't stop Australians from using it.
        closewith 1y ago
        I think you're now being deliberately obtuse or trolling, if you can't understand the difference between naming a product an ethnic slur and the colloquial use of a swear word.
echelon 1y ago
Authored by William Safire [1], who also authored the "In Event of Moon Disaster" speech [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire [2] https://www.archives.gov/files/presidential-libraries/events/centennials/nixon/images/exhibit/rn100-6-1-2.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/presidential-libraries/events...
kgwgk 1y ago
Interesting that you link to an article that has no issues with the word “tinker”.
- overscore 1y ago
  Yes, it is, and 37 years later, it is no longer acceptable to use such terms.
  - kgwgk 1y ago
    On the contrary, it seems more acceptable now than 37 years ago - the “unacceptable” meaning that was already residual then (and not mentioned in the article at all!) is even more irrelevant today.
    - closewith 1y ago
      So you believe the slur is no longer used or something?
      - kgwgk 1y ago
        I think it's used less than 37 years ago in that sense - and it was not much of an issue back then (at least in the US, that article doesn't mention that tinker could be considered offensive while it talks about 'wetbacks'). You believe the slur is used now more than 37 years ago or something?

labrador 1y ago

I'm very aware of how I speak which is why I have a good track record of not offending people. I change with the times e.g. I no longer refer to a car transmission as a tranny. So I know tinker as a slur is archaic. I've never heard anyone use it as a slur and think it would be counter productive to revive it as one.

closewith 1y ago
You not hearing it doesn’t make it archaic. Tinker is still thrown at Travellers in Ireland, the UK, Australia, and elsewhere. Calling it “dead” just shows you your bubble, not reality.
- labrador 1y ago
  Thinking Machines Lab and I are in Silicon Valley California. Are you suggesting that we should follow your provincial rules?
  - closewith 1y ago
    Read back your comment and apply it to an ethnic slur common in your locality.
    - labrador 1y ago
      We find the c-word c*nt highly offensive but that doesn't stop Australians from using it.
      - closewith 1y ago
        I think you're now being deliberately obtuse or trolling, if you can't understand the difference between naming a product an ethnic slur and the colloquial use of a swear word.

echelon 1y ago

Authored by William Safire [1], who also authored the "In Event of Moon Disaster" speech [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire [2] https://www.archives.gov/files/presidential-libraries/events/centennials/nixon/images/exhibit/rn100-6-1-2.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/presidential-libraries/events...

kgwgk 1y ago

Interesting that you link to an article that has no issues with the word “tinker”.

overscore 1y ago
Yes, it is, and 37 years later, it is no longer acceptable to use such terms.
- kgwgk 1y ago
  On the contrary, it seems more acceptable now than 37 years ago - the “unacceptable” meaning that was already residual then (and not mentioned in the article at all!) is even more irrelevant today.
  - closewith 1y ago
    So you believe the slur is no longer used or something?
    - kgwgk 1y ago
      I think it's used less than 37 years ago in that sense - and it was not much of an issue back then (at least in the US, that article doesn't mention that tinker could be considered offensive while it talks about 'wetbacks'). You believe the slur is used now more than 37 years ago or something?