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A quick hack: forward @yourdomain.com emails to your Gmail (e.g, Cloudflare Email Routing). Outbound emails sent via "Send mail as:" using SMTP remain unaffect
by mustaphah 1y ago
A quick hack: forward @yourdomain.com emails to your Gmail (e.g, Cloudflare Email Routing).
Outbound emails sent via "Send mail as:" using SMTP remain unaffected.
- flakeoil 1y agoOr forward your gmail to another proper email domain.
- mustaphah 1y agoI just can't live without the Gmail spamfilter. It's just the best. Industry-leading; no question.
- nulbyte 1y agoGmail regularly lets through spam, including backscatter spam from mail sent to the google.com domain spoofing Gmail users. Industry-leading is not the term I would use to describe their spam heuristics. Grey listing has been far more effective at stopping spam than some half-baked AI garbage from Google.
- mustaphah 1y agoNot ideal - can't disagree. Still, it's the industry leader. I'm not aware of a better spamfilter. Grey listing doesn't scale; not for me.
- akkartik 1y agoI forward everything including spam to Fastmail. Their spam filter is absolutely fine. This way I don't need to check for false positives in 2 places. You're probably losing one genuine message a year if you don't check your Gmail spam folder.
- nottorp 1y agoHmm. Not really. I run greylisting on my personal domain which is extremely low traffic and lately I'm getting like 4-5 spams per day that obey it correctly. Which is more than the non spam emails that come on it :)
- xandrius 1y agoHave you tried other things? And not saying just Microsoft.
- mustaphah 1y agoProton Mail is good (just not as good), but you can't integrate external SMTP for outbound emails; you have to pay to send from @yourdomain.com. With Gmail, you can configure an external SMTP server using "Send mail as" setting. Super convenient. Tons of mail services offer a generous free tier for personal use (e.g., Mailgun 100 emails/day). It's not really worth paying just to send a few personal emails from @yourdomain.com each month.
- jp191919 1y agoI control spam by using email aliases. And it makes it easy to track exactly who leaked/sold my email address. But I don't use gmail, as I value my privacy.
- mustaphah 1y agoI do aliases as well. Never enough. A battle-tested spammer would run s/+[^@]*// on the address before sending.
- lentil_soup 1y agoI have my own domain and just do <website-name>@mydomain.com and redirect everything to the same inbox sorted in folders. Works pretty well, if any of those addresses gets into some spam list I just block it (hasn't happened yet, though)
- mustaphah 1y agoCatch-all (*) setup is the best, until a spammer hits a gibberish localpart (on purpose) and your domain cheerfully accepts it. Don't get me wrong, I use catch-all too (don't tell spammers).
- layer8 1y agoI whitelist using regular expressions (specific prefixes mostly). Gibberish and random localparts are unlikely to match those, it effectively never happens.
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- zamadatix 1y agoSubaddressing != aliasing.
- mustaphah 1y ago
- andrewshadura 1y agoThat's what I thought too until I moved to Fastmail. It certainly isn't worse.
- mustaphah 1y agoFastmail is great. It's just that I'm not willing to pay 5$ each month to send 5 emails from @mydomain.com. 1$ per email is too much, right?
- andrewshadura 1y agoI have all of my mail (and all of my domains) there, that makes it a fair deal. It also fetches from gmail and other places.
- alextingle 1y agoGmail is absolutely terrible for false positives. I'm sure they do it deliberately to discourage people from using other e-mail services.
- mustaphah 1y agoWhat's your setup? If you're forwarding, an SPF-only aligned email will fail DMARC, and it's the sender's fault: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45441243 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45441243 Next time a legit email ends up in your spam folder, use this tool to figure out why: https://mxtoolbox.com/EmailHeaders.aspx https://mxtoolbox.com/EmailHeaders.aspx I've had a few cases myself, and it's always been the sender's fault.
- tarboreus 1y agoYes, they do. But you'll get 5 responses saying you're doing something wrong.
- tarboreus 1y agoThis comment is from 1020.
- LightBug1 1y agoLOL. Thanks.
- f4uCL9dNSnQm 1y agoIt is at least 5 months since spammers use fake "delivery error" to skip the filter: http://old.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/1jzf6o2/fake_delivery_status_notification_failure_emails/ http://old.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/1jzf6o2/fake_... . I would expect more from industry-leading company. Just joking, I expect nothing from GMail team after I noticed that "block sender" option just puts emails in spam folder instead of deleting them on arrival.
- reaperducer 1y agoI just can't live without the Gmail spamfilter. It's just the best. Industry-leading; no question. I have accounts on Gmail and other services, and can say from close to a decade of use that Fastmail's spam filter is usually far better than Gmail's. Occasionally it'll fall behind for a few weeks, but always seems to catch up or surpass Google's. Over the last couple of months, for example, 100% of the spam I've received has come from Gmail. 0% from Fastmail.
- blibble 1y agodoesn't work very well these days with SPF + DKIM
- mustaphah 1y agoOnly if the sender's DMARC setup is broken… If their DMARC alignment relies on SPF only, it will break. But if it relies on DKIM (far more common) or both SPF and DKIM (best practice), forwarding won't cause any issues. If your email breaks when forwarded, your setup is broken. Tons of people use Cloudflare Email Routing or similar services; you must account for them. That being said, I forward mail addressed @mydomain.com to my Gmail, and I've had a couple of cases where legit messages landed in spam because it was SPF-aligned only.