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"I wonder if they will quickly switch to Android if they will kick Elop out and decide the Microsoft partnership has failed." That is extremely unlikely. Nokia

"I wonder if they will quickly switch to Android if they will kick Elop out and decide the Microsoft partnership has failed." That is extremely unlikely. Nokia with Symbian was a Unix shop. They purged all of them for Windows or they just left. It was extremely painful. Now are they going to take the "Windows enviroment devs" and replace it again by Android experts?. Not going to happen. I said it when the MS deal was known and I repeat it today. In all Microsoft partnerships Microsoft always wins, partners are f*cked. It has always been that way. Nokia will burn and Microsoft will buy it cheaply to compete with Apple in tablets. That was the idea from (Nokia)investors from day 1, most of them are American, they want Nokia in Silicon Valley.

recoiledsnake 14y ago
>That is extremely unlikely. Nokia with Symbian was a Unix shop. They purged all of them for Windows or they just left. It was extremely painful. And Nokia was too busy with the infighting among the different Symbian groups(which didn't even share source code!) for almost 4 years to actually develop a coherent answer to the iPhone. Microsoft is paying Nokia a billion dollars a year to tide over difficult times, Elop asked Google for a similar deal to switch to Android instead and Google told them to take a hike. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_24/b4232056703101.htm http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_24/b42320567... >I said it when the MS deal was known and I repeat it today. In all Microsoft partnerships Microsoft always wins, partners are f*cked. Just because you repeat something doesn't make it true. Just read up on the history and early days of Compaq and Dell, to take just two examples out of very many that have profited in partnership with Microsoft. Nitpicking on a couple of examples doesn't help your case. For example, Apple used Read it Later's open source code in Safari, but then banned the app from the App Store for not paying the 30% toll on subscriptions! >That was the idea from (Nokia)investors from day 1, most of them are American, they want Nokia in Silicon Valley. Any references, or is that just idle speculation?
biafra 14y ago
Nokia with Symbian was never a Unix Shop. The endorsed dev environment was eclipse on windows. Makesis (needed to create signed SIS packages) was windows only. I tried severl times to get a dev enviromnent setup on something else an windows. IIRC this was impossible at least until 2008. Then I started Android development and never looked back. I"d guess it is still impossible to build, package and sign Symbian apps on something different than Windows.

recoiledsnake 14y ago

>That is extremely unlikely. Nokia with Symbian was a Unix shop. They purged all of them for Windows or they just left. It was extremely painful. And Nokia was too busy with the infighting among the different Symbian groups(which didn't even share source code!) for almost 4 years to actually develop a coherent answer to the iPhone. Microsoft is paying Nokia a billion dollars a year to tide over difficult times, Elop asked Google for a similar deal to switch to Android instead and Google told them to take a hike. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_24/b4232056703101.htm http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_24/b42320567... >I said it when the MS deal was known and I repeat it today. In all Microsoft partnerships Microsoft always wins, partners are f*cked. Just because you repeat something doesn't make it true. Just read up on the history and early days of Compaq and Dell, to take just two examples out of very many that have profited in partnership with Microsoft. Nitpicking on a couple of examples doesn't help your case. For example, Apple used Read it Later's open source code in Safari, but then banned the app from the App Store for not paying the 30% toll on subscriptions! >That was the idea from (Nokia)investors from day 1, most of them are American, they want Nokia in Silicon Valley. Any references, or is that just idle speculation?

biafra 14y ago

Nokia with Symbian was never a Unix Shop. The endorsed dev environment was eclipse on windows. Makesis (needed to create signed SIS packages) was windows only. I tried severl times to get a dev enviromnent setup on something else an windows. IIRC this was impossible at least until 2008. Then I started Android development and never looked back. I"d guess it is still impossible to build, package and sign Symbian apps on something different than Windows.