> they wouldn't be usefull in modern days. I’ve been thinking about it a lot. Usefulness, joy. I think modern BASIC and Pascal environments strike a reasonabl

> they wouldn't be usefull in modern days. I’ve been thinking about it a lot. Usefulness, joy. I think modern BASIC and Pascal environments strike a reasonably good balance where you can write non-industrial programs where you can ignore all the “engineering” and “bureaucratic” processes that support building larger scale systems with many contributors and focus on getting something done or have some fun.