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Cursor 1.7
- qsort 1y agoI could be wrong about this, but it feels like Cursor is less and less compelling with better models and better CLI tools popping up. Are the plan limits generous enough that it's worth a spin? Again, I haven't used Cursor in a while, I'm mostly posting this hoping for Cunningham's Law to take effect :)
- anthonypasq 1y agoCursor is your best option if you want to switch models frequently, run multiple agents in parallel, and also have the best tab complete out there. And you're still getting extra vc-funded tokens. You get ~$40 worth of tokens at API costs for the $20 plan. idk seems worth it to me. If youre shelling out on one of the $200 plans maybe its not as worth it, but it just seems like the best all in one ai product out there.
- deaux 1y agoExcept for the autocomplete, it's not the best option even for the user you're describing.
- Sammi 1y agoDoes anyone have autocomplete that is half as good as Cursors? I just tried vanilla vs code with github copilot and it was terrible. Not worth paying for bad.
- anthonypasq 1y agowindsurf is probably half as good
- anthonypasq 1y agonothing else does it all
- chermi 1y agoAs everyone with half a brain predicted, their pricing was never meant to last. Their "limit" (base plan) is now just $20 in API credits, at slightly higher than provider token price. Sometimes they let you go a little over, but I'm not sure if that's still true.
- jermaustin1 1y agoI'm currently flying, and using Cursor. I have my model set to Sonnet-4, and it keeps bugging me that my usage is going to end on 10/21, 10/19, 10/13, 10/08, after just a couple hours of VERY slow LLM usage. I wouldn't even bother with it, but my MCP coding tool I built uses Claud Desktop and is for windows only, and my laptop is MacOS. So I'm using Cursor, and it is WAY WORSE than my most simple of MCP servers (that literally just does dotnet commands, filesystem commands, and github commands). I think having something that is so general like cursor causes the editor to try too many things that are outside what you actually want. I fought for 2 hours and 45 minutes while Sonnet-4 (which is what my MCP uses) kept inventing worse ways to implement OpenAI Responses using the OpenAI-dotnet library. Even switching to GPT-5 didn't help. Adding the documentation didn't help. I went to claude in my browser, pasted the documentation, and my class I wanted extended to use Responses, and it finished it in 5 minutes. The Cursor "special-sauce" seems to be a hinderance now-days. But beggars can't be choosers, as they say.
- jtrn 1y agoI find Cursor at the same level as Claude code, with some strengths and some weaknesses. Cursor is nice when I want to start multiple parallel agents, while browsing files, monitoring the progress, and switching models as needed. It’s just a simple, zero config environment i can just start using intuitively. Claude code is more reliable and generally better at using MCP for tool cal, like docs from contex7. So if I had only one prompt and it HAD to make something work, Claude code would be my bet. Personally I like jumping between models and IDEs , if only to mix it up. And you get a reminder of different ways of doing stuff.
- mohsen1 1y agoCursor was good for a little while until VSCode opened up the APIs for AI editing. Now Copilot is really good and other extensions (specifically Kilo Code) are doing things so much better! I am seeing a lot of folks talking about maintaining a good "Agent Loop" for doing larger tasks. It seems like Kilo Code has figured it out completely for me. Using the Orchestrator mode I'm able to accomplish really big and complex tasks without having to design an agent loop or hand crafting context. It switches between modes and accomplishes the tasks. My AGENTS.md file is really minimal like "write test for changes and make small commits"
- jtrn 1y agoDid something change with Kiro, or was I just using it wrong? I tried to have it make a simple MCP server based on docs, and it seriously spent 6 hours without making a basic MVP. It looked like the most impressive planner and executor while working, but it just made a mess.
- WesleyJohnson 1y agoI feel like I've hit a sweet spot for my use case, but am so behind the times. I've been a developer for 20 years and I'm not interested in vibe coding or letting an agent run wild on my full code base. Instead, I'll ask Cursor to refactor code that I know is inefficient. Abstract repetitive code into functions or includes. Recommend (but not make) changes to larger code blocks or modules to make them better. Occasionally, I'll have it author new functionality. What I find is, Cursor's autocomplete pairs really with with the agent's context. So, even if I only ask it for suggestions and tell it to not make the change, when I start implementing those changes myself (either some or all), the shared context kicks in and autocomplete starts providing suggestions in the direction of the recommendation. However, at any time I can change course and Cursor picks up very quickly on my new direction and the autocomplete shifts with me. It's so powerful when I'm leading it to where I know I want to go, but having enormous amounts of training data at the ready to guide me in best-practices or common patterns. I don't run any .md files though. I wonder what I'm missing out on.
- aeon_ai 1y agoWhy waste precious milliseconds typing complete sentences to your AI coding assistant? With autocomplete in the prompt box, we've solved the most pressing problem facing developers today: prompt fatigue. Gone are the days of exhausting yourself by typing full requests like "refactor this function to use async/await." Now, simply type "refac—" and let our AI predict that you want an AI to refactor your code. It's AI all the way down, baby.
- debesyla 1y agoSwipe right if you vibe with AI suggestion, swipe left if not.
- cesarvarela 1y agoWith Meta's wristband, you can save some finger and arm movement as well.
- imiric 1y agoNo joke—out of all tech products announced in the last ~year, that wristband is what excites me the most.
- siva7 1y agoYou write like that's a bad thing. What's with the negativity here..
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- kenreidwilson 1y agobased
- vasco 1y agoIt's funny to imagine this AI based autocomplete prompting when the interface isn't a keyboard but a brain chip. Effectively mind control.
- whywhywhywhy 1y agoNone of my experiences with cursor lately would ever give me confidence for letting it do a task that took long enough for it to be backgrounded. Caught Claude 4.5 via Cursor yesterday trying to set a password to “password” on an outward facing EC2 service.
- jjice 1y agoCurious what your case was for using Claude to set passwords on EC2 instances. Terraform, CDK, something else?
- whywhywhywhy 1y agoWriting a launch template for an instance that needed a desktop environment for automated benchmarking and VNC for debugging.
- GuardianCaveman 1y agoNice to see the image files being read without having to paste them and team rules. Cursor has been extremely helpful the last few months but increasingly more expensive. I spent almost 300 last month and had a lot of frustrating experiences so now I’m transitioning to Claude code in VS code.
- deaux 1y ago$300!? You could literally switch to any of the dozen competitors and it'd be cheaper than that for at least the same quality, good god.
- cesarvarela 1y agoFor some reason, CLIs feel better as coding agent UIs. I loved Cursor at first, but now with Claude Code, it feels like Cursor's UI gets in the way.
- bfeynman 1y agoThe reason is abundantly clear. Cursor was just a GPT wrapper with a nice UI/UX (which was very nice when it came out) it has some other models like autocomplete as well, but its still a wrapper. OpenAI and Anthropic build and train models specifically to work via CLI driven processes, which is why they are so much better now. Cursor is basically dead as I'm sure they realized they get much better performance with the CLI/agentic approach.
- dmix 1y ago> OpenAI and Anthropic build and train models specifically to work via CLI driven processes, Cursor agents open terminals just fine in VSCode and is a major part of how Cursor works. I personally code in VSCode text editor prior to Cursor (left VIM a while ago) and prefer to stay in the context of a desktop text editor. I find it's easier to see what's changing in real time, with a file list, file tabs, top level and inline undo buttons etc. I've even stopped tabbing to a separate terminal by about 50%, I learned to use VSCode terminals to run tests and git commands, which works well once you learn the shortcuts + integrate it into some VSCode test runner extensions. Plus Cursor added LLM/autocomplete to terminal commands which is great. I don't need a separate CLI tool or Bash/zsh script inside terminal to inject terminal commands I forgot the arguments for.
- bfeynman 1y agoyou're missing that open ai and anthropic are finetuning their models for their coding agents, i.e. using rl and annotating datasets and optimizing for them with directly learnable parameters. Cursor is just able to use whatever foundational model apis are available (not sure if or when labs might give programmatic access to coding agents). I'm sure they are trying to train OSS models but those fall way short performance wise of proprietary ones.
- vel0city 1y agoAnyone have good recommendations for plugins integrating things like LM Studio or Ollama into Visual Studio or Jetbrains IDEs? I'd like to do more local AI processing on code bases instead of always relying on outside providers, but a lot of these things like Copilot and Cursor seem so well integrated into the IDE.
- rickette 1y agoJetBrains native AI assistant supports Ollama out of the box. No need for a 3rd party plugin anymore. See https://www.jetbrains.com/help/ai-assistant/use-custom-models.html https://www.jetbrains.com/help/ai-assistant/use-custom-model...
- doomroot13 1y agoCopilot in VSCode supports local models through Ollama as well. Not sure about Copilot in Visual Studio. That's one of the most annoying things is VS is always behind VSCode in terms of Copilot features.
- vel0city 1y agoHow do I get to the point of choosing model API providers (and configure my own) without doing any kind of sign in with Copilot though? I'm looking for everything be offline and not affiliated with some external service at all, even if some free tier.
- aurareturn 1y agoI only use VSCode Copilot in Agent mode with either Claude Sonnet 4 or GPT5. Am I missing out on anything?
- mohsen1 1y ago6 months ago you were missing out but today, not much really
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- hansonkd 1y agoI wish cursor would let you see how much usage in terms of $$ you have done for your month. Its really hard to see in the dashboard the individual charges tokens, but then there is no cumulative. I haven't been able to find a way to see how much of my included usage is being used besides downloading the csv and manually summing. They just give you a very unhelpful "You will use your included credits by X date" I suppose this is by design so you don't know how much you have left and will need to buy more credits.
- enraged_camel 1y agoYou mean this page? https://cursor.com/dashboard?tab=usage https://cursor.com/dashboard?tab=usage
- hansonkd 1y agoIt doesn't show cumulative does it? For me it just shows my plan name and itemized token usage but no "You used x out of y of your included credits"
- enraged_camel 1y agoIt shows me $XX/$YYY at the very top, on the right side. /shrug
- hansonkd 1y agoThats on demand usage. Not your plan usage. You get Y credits every month before you start using on demand usage. That $XX/$YYY is how much of your on demand usage limit you used.
- leerob 1y ago(I work at Cursor) We added usage visibility in the IDE with v1.4: https://cursor.com/changelog/1-4#usage-and-pricing-visibility https://cursor.com/changelog/1-4#usage-and-pricing-visibilit.... By default, it only shows when you are close to your limits. You can toggle it to always display in your settings, if you prefer.
- oersted 1y agoI'd love to hear from folks who mainly use Claude Code on why they prefer it and how they compare. It seems to be the most popular option here in HN, or at least the most frequently mentioned, and I never quite got why. I always preferred the deep IDE integration that Cursor offers. I do use AI extensively for coding, but as a tool in the toolbox, it's not always the best in every context, and I see myself often switching between vibe coding and regular coding, with various levels of hand-holding. And I do also like having access to other AI providers, I have used various Claude models quite a lot, but they are not the be-all-end-all. I often got better results with o3 and now GPT-5 Thinking, even if they are slower, it's good to be able to switch and test. I always felt that the UX of tools like Claude Code encourage you to blindly do everything through AI, it's not as seamless to dig-in and take more control when it makes sense to do so. That being said, they are very similar now, they all constantly copy each other. I suppose for many it's just inertia as well, simply about which one they tried first and what they are subscribed to, to an extent that is the case for me too.
- qsort 1y agoI don't think we are in a phase where we can confidently state that there's a correct answer on how to do development, productivity self reports are notoriously unreliable. At least personally, the reason why I prefer CLI tools like Claude and Codex is precisely that they feel like yet another tool in my toolbox, more so than with AI integrated in the editor. As a matter of fact I dislike almost all AI integrations and Claude Code was when AI really "clicked" for me. I'd rather start a session on a fresh branch, work on something else while I wait for the task to be done, and then look at the diff with git difftool or IDE-integrated equivalent. I'd argue you have just as much control with this workflow! A final note on the models: I'm a fan of Claude models, but I have to begrudgingly admit that gpt-5-codex high is very good. I wouldn't have subscribed just for the gpt-5 family, but Codex is worth it.
- sexyman48 1y agoMaximalists who find value in "deep IDE integration" and go on about it also enjoy meetings.
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- axwdev 1y agoI use Cursor because I found their autocomplete to be the best option at the time. That seemed to be the consensus at one point too from bits of research I did. Do people think there are better autocomplete options available now? Is it a case of just using a particular model for autocomplete in whatever IDE you want to use?
- hahn-kev 1y agoI agree, they bought out Supermaven which was amazing, but now Supermaven is dead and I want something in Rider.
- hn_throw2025 1y agoI don't think Supermaven is dead... Even though it is also part of Cursor, you could subscribe to the $10/month Pro plan and use it in Jetbrains IDEs like Rider. https://supermaven.com/pricing https://supermaven.com/pricing
- z3ratul163071 1y agotoday i found myself wondering why Github Copilot is so retarded without any autocomplete whatsover in the agent input
- ddxv 1y agoSame! Just tried Copilot heavily for a few days and the autocomplete is terribly slow and clunky. Overall I do like VSCode better but Cursors blazing fast and intelligent autocomplete is awesome, will probably stick with Cursor. Btw, I find the review / agent code stuff pretty bad on both. No idea how people get them working well.
- treefry 1y agoRight. Yesterday I tried a simple task that just adds Required[] notation to all class fields. After making the change on one field, Cursor allows me to press tabs and update all other fields. VSCode doesn't understand what I was trying to do after the first operation, which is surprisingly bad (no improvement after months). Also I'm not in favor of the conversational experience of claude code or other CLIs for such trivial task. I'd be happy to know what else can provide a better user experience than Cursor. Disclaimer: I get enterprise level subscriptions to these services via my employer. I personally don't pay for them and never consider their cost, if that matters.
- causal 1y agoI got into Cursor a little late, went really heavy on it, and see myself using it less and less as I go back to VSCode. 1) The most useful thing about Cursor was always state management of agent edits: Being able roll back to previous states after some edits with the click of a button, or reapply changes, and preview edits, etc. But weirdly, it seems like they never recognized this differentiator, and indeed it remains a bit buggy, and some crucial things (like mass-reapply after a rollback) never got implemented. 2) Adding autocomplete to the prompt box gives me suspicion they somehow still do not understand best practices in using AI to write code. It is more crucial than ever to be clear in your mind what you want to do in a codebase, so that you can recognize when AI is deviating from that path. Giving the LLM more and earlier opportunities to create deviation is a terrible idea. 3) Claude Code was fine in CLI and has a nearly-identical extension pane now too. For the same price, I seem to get just as much usage, in addition to a Claude subscription. I think Cursor will lose because models were never their advantage and they do not seem to really be thought leaders on LLM-driven software development.
- leerob 1y ago(I work at Cursor) 1. Checkpoints/rollbacks are still a focus for us, albeit it's less used for those working with git. Could you share the bug you saw? 2. Autocomplete for prompts was something we were skeptical of as well, but found it really useful internally to save time completing filenames of open code files, or tabbing to automatically include a recently opened file into the context. Goal here is to save you keystrokes. It doesn't use an LLM to generate the autocomplete. 3. A lot of folks don't want to juggle three AI subscriptions for coding and have found the Cursor sub where they can use GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok models to be a nice balance. YMMV of course!
- visarga 1y ago> (I work at Cursor) I find the amount of credits included in the pro subscription per month totally insufficient. Maybe it lasts 1-2 weeks. Today I got a message telling me I exhausted my subscription when the web dashboard was showing 450/500. Is there a team level constraint on top of individual ones?
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- sersi 1y agoI really don't understand Cursor's 30 billion dollars valuation (half of Antropic). I use it, it's not a bad tool by any means but it's so buggy from version to version. Latest bug I had, it completely stopped keeping my zsh state in the terminal, I had to downgrade. And honestly, I'm not that sure what secret sauce is worth 30 billion dollars? The agent loop? Others can do that? The autocomplete?
- causal 1y agoYeah I have to imagine it's because of user base, there's no real moat in the technology
- bfeynman 1y agonot only that but the way that openai and claude have their own foundational models/agents trained to work via CLI, which will basically always be better than just cursors gpt wrapper approach.
- esafak 1y agoHow are they trained to work via CLI? You prompt it and it returns response. Where does the CLI come into play?
- throwaway314155 1y agoHave you used Claude Code or OpenAI Codex yet?
- esafak 1y agoYes, daily.
- bfeynman 1y agofrontier labs do finetuning of their models for software dev using the terminal/cli driven style, annotating datasets to solve programming in this fashion, and fine tuning will almost always make for better performance. Cursor as mostly a wrapper is just using the underlying foundation models in their framework and orchestrating on top of that, as opposed to doing actual learnable objectives in training to make things better.
- jtokoph 1y agoOff topic, but does anyone understand why Apple’s reader mode is so bad? This post is an example of reader mode not displaying section titles. I see this pretty frequently, even in my own blog, and haven’t been able to figure out hires to beat its flawed logic.
- mdale 1y agoWas spending a lot with cursor switching between sonnet and opus 4.1s like 1500 to $2k a month. Was doing a lot of tabs in parallel of course. Output was like 5k lines on Good day. (Lines not the best measurement) But a yard stick against feature testing and rework. Now with gpt-5-codex and codex vs code ext .. getting through up to 20k line changes in a day again lots of parallel jobs; but codex allows for less rework. The job of the "engineer" has changed a lot. At 5k lines I was not reviewing every detail but it was possible to skim over what had changed. At 20k it's more looking at logs performance / arch & observation of features less code is reviewed. Maybe soon just looking at outcomes. Things are moving quickly.
- dmix 1y agoSounds like a different use case than Cursor. Editing that many files/lines probably scales better with a CLI tool. Cursor makes more sense for day-to-day maintenance and heavy hand-holding feature development coding. If I was building a new project from scratch I'd probably use a CLI tool to manage a longer TODO easier. But working on existing legacy code I find an IDE integration is more flexible.
- esafak 1y agoAnd this unreviewed code is going into production?
- saos 1y agoI've been using this editor more and to be honest, I love it so much. Yet to try Claude code though.
- simonw 1y agoOK I'd love to know more about how they implemented this: https://cursor.com/changelog/1-7#sandboxed-terminals https://cursor.com/changelog/1-7#sandboxed-terminals "Commands now execute in a secure, sandboxed environment. If you’re on allowlist mode, non-allowlisted commands will automatically run in a sandbox with read/write access to your workspace and no internet access."
- justhw 1y agoSince finding out a Claude Code extension to run on VS Code/cursor, I use it less and less. With git and Claude Code, rolling back and forth is a breeze. Cursor is cooked, as the cool kids say now days. They need to adapt and find a moat.
- deaux 1y agoCursor will soon be irrelevant. The one thing that it excels at is autocomplete, and that's ironically the one feature they bought out and integrated (Supermaven) instead of developing themselves, which sums it up quite well. It's still making good money based on having been first to market , but it's market share has been in freefall for ages, only accelerating. The agentic side is nothing special and it's expensive for what you get. Even if you're the exact target audience - don't want CLI, want multiple frontier models to choose from for a fixed monthly price - Augment is both more competent and ends up cheaper. Then for everyone else who is fine with a single model, Claude Code and now Codex are obviously better choices. Or those who want cheaper and faster through open weights models, there's Opencode and Kilo. The mystery is that the other VC backed ones seemingly don't care or just don't put enough resources into cracking the autocomplete code, as many are still staying with Cursor purely for that - or were until CC became mainstream. Windsurf was making strides but now that's dead.
- romanovcode 1y agoDo not underestimate enterprise customers who buy Cursor for all their employees. Cursor will become legacy tech soon, yes. But it will be slow death, not a crash.
- rfoo 1y ago> and that's ironically the one feature they bought out and integrated (Supermaven) instead of developing themselves What? Cursor bought Supermaven last November and I have been using their much superior (compared to GH Copilot) completion since maybe early last year so it does not add up.
- Sammi 1y agoVs code tab complete is still so bad there's no point even having it.
- hackernewds 1y agoDo you work at Supermaven, because that is 100% not the case
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- mellosouls 1y agoLike many others I was very pro cursor a year or so ago, but unfortunately since then 3 significant things have severely impacted its appeal: VS Code accepted the challenge and upped its game. Claude Code changed the game. Cursor's own heavy value decrease (always part of the strategy but poorly communicated and managed) hit Cursor users hard when the cheap premium tokens honeymoon ended in recent months. Existing users are disappointed, potential new users no longer see it as the clear class leader, because it isn't.
- OldGreenYodaGPT 1y agowith Codex and Claude Code there is no reason to use Cursor
- a_wild_dandan 1y agoIs it possible to run Cursor entirely with local models? My Mac can comfortably run relatively massive models. I would experiment so much more with AI in my codebases knowing that I won't slam into a brick wall due to quotas, connection issues, etc.
- yunwal 1y agoYou can power it with local models but you can’t use it without internet, or without sending your data to cursor, since they do a bunch of preprocessing and orchestration on the backend before handing everything off to the model
- cadamsdotcom 1y ago1 year since canceling Cursor; I thank them for being a stepping stone on my journey of agentic coding. Legacy tech, but a great idea before models got good enough to use via CLI.
- yunwal 1y agoModels are absolutely not good enough to use via cli in many (most) cases that actually matter
- timcobb 1y agoGreat job ya'll! Admittedly I haven't tried Claude Code but that's because I think Cursor is the bees knees! I do agree with the people posting that the 500 requests pricing approach is kinda rough, but I can see how you're trying to figure this out as a company that doesn't own a frontier model like Anthropic. Anyway, great job! _Love_ the new Agent View. Fun to see you guys hashing out this UI/UX release by release.
- robinhood 1y agoI use Cursor only because of their extraordinary tab suggestion feature. It's still blowing the competition away. It's 1000000 times better than any other tools I've tried and I've tried them all. Cursor should focus on that feature alone - anything else will end up in enshittification.
- AIorNot 1y agoI used to work at NASA as an engineer, and the way it works (E.g space station operations or shuttle missions) was that hundreds of engineers are working on various complex systems on the ground while astronauts try to do a mission in space. What this means that dozens of procedures and activities are happening at any one time in orbit, and that a Flight Director on the ground and an Astronaut in space needs to be at least cognizant or aware of (at least enough to prevent disasters and complete the tasks) -this is the greatest challenge in on-orbit work. IE to widen this metaphor: to collect and gather complex operational data on differing parts of a system in a USEFUL way is the greatest challenge of complex work and software engineering is about controlling complexity above all. Now at NASA, we often wrote up procedures and activities with the- "Astronauts are smart they can grok it" mindset; but during debriefs the common refrain from those at the top of pyramid was that "I don't have the mental capacity to handle and monitor dozens of systems at the same time" -Humans are very bad at getting in flow when monitoring things.. maybe if some kind of flow state was achievable like a conductor over an orchestra in orchestrating agents..but I don't see that happening with multiple parts of the codebase getting altered at the same time by a dozen agents. Cursor and Agentic tools bring this complexity (and try to tame it through a chat window or text response) to our daily work on our desktop; now we might have dozens of AI Agents working on aspects of your codebase! Yes, its incredible progress but with this amazing technical ability comes great responsibility for the human overseer...this is the 'astronaut' in my earlier metaphor- an overburdened software engineer. Worryingly also culture wise- management teams now expect software devs to deliver much faster, this is dangerous since we can use these tools but are forced to leave more to autopilot in hopes of catching bugs in test etc - I see that trend is to push away the human oversight into blind agents but this is the wrong model I think for now -how can I trust and agent without understanding all that it did? To summarize, I like both Cursor and Claude Code, but I think we need better paradigms in terms of UX so that we can better handle conflicts, stupid models, reversions, better windows on what changed code-wise.. I also get the trend of creating trash-able instances in containers and killing them on failure, but we still need to understand how a code change impacts other parts of the codebase - anyway somebody on the cursor team will not even read this post -they will just summarize the whole HN thread with AI and implement some software tickets to add another checkbox to the chat window in response.. this is not the engineering we need in response to this new paradigm of working.. we need some deep 'human' design thinking here..
- DrNosferatu 1y ago- Does anyone know good, thorough video tutorials for Cursor? I use Cursor, but I don’t know if I’m using it to the fullest. (same for Claude Code - I never used it, and would actually like to compare between them)
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- mstaoru 1y agoThey forgot to include: * Broke users' keyboard shortcuts again. Seriously, every Cursor update adds another override, their most favorite seeming to be Cmd+E. If I'm not mistaken, poor Cmd+E changed what it does already 3 or 4 times. And every time I have to remove the newly added shortcut to restore "find with selection"...
- 7midav7 1y agoHow can I enable new sandboxed terminal? I have the latest version and trying to send "run curl cursor", but the command is not executed, it is the same behaviour like in previous versions. I don't see option Auto-Run in sandbox.