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Israel is facing a ton of backlash for the latest conflict too (even from countries like Germany!). But I would argue that in the Ukraine war it is much more o
by myrmidon 1y ago
Israel is facing a ton of backlash for the latest conflict too (even from countries like Germany!).
But I would argue that in the Ukraine war it is much more obvious who "good guy/bad guy" is, because you have a totalitarian aggressor on one side and a somewhat democratic defender on the other.
In Israel, you have a democratically controlled army vs a terrorists group (Hamas), and it is much less clear where the justifiable limit for collateral damage is or whom to blame primarily for the current level of escalation.
- koakuma-chan 1y ago> But I would argue that in the Ukraine war it is much more obvious who "good guy/bad guy" I'd say they both suck. Have you seen how Ukraine abducts random people from the street and sends them to war?
- myrmidon 1y agoI don't think mandatory conscription/press-gangs are anywhere close to murder/rape of civilians (which there are well-documented cases on the Palestinian and Russian side). Pressing young men into military service is not even on the same scale by comparison. And its not just the rape/murder/looting thats the problem- its about how the perpetrators deal with it. The harsh reality of war is that tragedies like that are hard to completely prevent even for a disciplined force, but if you can not even be arsed to prosecute escalations like that (and respond with obvious lies, denial and finger-pointing instead), you lose any moral high-ground.