fwiw whoever makes 30 under 30 list also acknowledges it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesunder30team/2023/11/28/hall-of-shame-the-10-most-dubious-people-eve

fwiw whoever makes 30 under 30 list also acknowledges it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesunder30team/2023/11/28/hall-of-shame-the-10-most-dubious-people-ever-to-make-our-30-under-30-list/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesunder30team/2023/11/28/ha...