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You really think that the public will connect the dots. Trump's "big beautiful bill" makes a lot of those painful cuts. But it also keeps them from taking effe

by btilly 1y ago

You really think that the public will connect the dots. Trump's "big beautiful bill" makes a lot of those painful cuts. But it also keeps them from taking effect until too late in 2028 to affect the next election. Between now and then, the standard Republican line can be, "Democrats told you that all this will be cut. Have your benefits been cut?" They get to use that in 2026 and 2028. The cuts will have arrived by 2030, but the bill will be old news. There will be a new controversy. And people's opinions of the bill won't change. This is all on purpose.

rayiner 1y ago
The BBB doesn't cut shit. The biggest cut is $1 trillion in Medicaid over 10 years. Medicaid spending was $894 billion in 2023, up from $721 billion (CPI adjusted) in 2015: https://www.statista.com/statistics/245348/total-medicaid-expenditure-since-1966/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/245348/total-medicaid-ex.... We're not even cutting it back halfway to what it was in Obama's last year, when everything was peachy.
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- Tadpole9181 1y ago
  The USD has inflated 36% since 2015. So the 2023 budget was already an effective budget cut from 2015 of almost $100 billion (10%). So we're effectively cutting the program budget by 25% what it was in Obama's last year - and that's after kneecapping it several times legislatively WRT things like the individual mandate and before going into the rapidly rising inflation we're seeing this year leading into that decade.
  - rayiner 1y ago
    As I said, the 2015 figure I gave was already adjusted for inflation. The medicaid spending was only $495 billion in nominal dollars in 2015.
- array_key_first 1y ago
  The BBB doesn't cut shit. It just cuts trillions of dollars. Do y'all actually hear yourself or what? Also: it's not JUST the cutting that's the problem. We're doing these cuts and getting NOTHING in return. Literally nothing. Do you know how much money we're saving? -2 trillion dollars. You are actually paying to lose money. Its legitimately unbelievable just how shit this fiscal policy is.
scrubs 1y ago
If true the dems should allow the government to stay closed until this can be fixed. They need some street smarts: flush out the BS now. Voters need to know what the heck is going on. I hate to write it but we may need visit a crappy local minimum (accept a crap show short term) to move back to a higher maximum than we are now. The money the US (that's us folks) spend on medicine is crimally stupid. Heck I had doctor in laws.. one runs medstar in dc both of who have nothing nice to say about the finance/insurance side of medicine. Now, I hasten to add let's not throw the baby out with the bath water: doctors and nurses are generally people who want to help through science, and that's a good thing.

by btilly 1y ago

rayiner 1y ago

The BBB doesn't cut shit. The biggest cut is $1 trillion in Medicaid over 10 years. Medicaid spending was $894 billion in 2023, up from $721 billion (CPI adjusted) in 2015: https://www.statista.com/statistics/245348/total-medicaid-expenditure-since-1966/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/245348/total-medicaid-ex.... We're not even cutting it back halfway to what it was in Obama's last year, when everything was peachy.

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Tadpole9181 1y ago
The USD has inflated 36% since 2015. So the 2023 budget was already an effective budget cut from 2015 of almost $100 billion (10%). So we're effectively cutting the program budget by 25% what it was in Obama's last year - and that's after kneecapping it several times legislatively WRT things like the individual mandate and before going into the rapidly rising inflation we're seeing this year leading into that decade.
- rayiner 1y ago
  As I said, the 2015 figure I gave was already adjusted for inflation. The medicaid spending was only $495 billion in nominal dollars in 2015.
array_key_first 1y ago
The BBB doesn't cut shit. It just cuts trillions of dollars. Do y'all actually hear yourself or what? Also: it's not JUST the cutting that's the problem. We're doing these cuts and getting NOTHING in return. Literally nothing. Do you know how much money we're saving? -2 trillion dollars. You are actually paying to lose money. Its legitimately unbelievable just how shit this fiscal policy is.

scrubs 1y ago

If true the dems should allow the government to stay closed until this can be fixed. They need some street smarts: flush out the BS now. Voters need to know what the heck is going on. I hate to write it but we may need visit a crappy local minimum (accept a crap show short term) to move back to a higher maximum than we are now. The money the US (that's us folks) spend on medicine is crimally stupid. Heck I had doctor in laws.. one runs medstar in dc both of who have nothing nice to say about the finance/insurance side of medicine. Now, I hasten to add let's not throw the baby out with the bath water: doctors and nurses are generally people who want to help through science, and that's a good thing.