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Evidence?

asimpleusecase 1y ago
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-04-28/debates/2E70C054-1672-4660-9088-4D4DCE6AF45B/ChildRapeGangs https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-04-28/debates/2E7... Rather than jump into the raging press coverage or as some see it raging press coverup - here is a link to debate in UK Parliament that indicates there is an issue.
- scott_w 1y ago
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  - asimpleusecase 1y ago
    I was providing evidence that there was an issue. Not trying to take a side. You can retract your f**. Yes there is a debate now and it is very open, and there are many reports that it was not so open and people were hurt for a long time. Was that political cover up? Each can decide - but I think the debate shows there was a real issue.
    - scott_w 1y ago
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      - asimpleusecase 1y ago
        Here is the results of the following Google search “uk coverup of rape gangs” and the results https://www.thefp.com/p/muslim-grooming-gangs-cover-up-keir-starmer-elon-musk https://www.thefp.com/p/muslim-grooming-gangs-cover-up-keir-... https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/06/18/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-is-a-stain-on-the-british-state https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/06/18/the-grooming-ga... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/17/what-is-the-casey-report-on-uk-grooming-gangs-and-why-did-labour-u-turn https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/17/what-is-the-casey-r... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/16/grooming-gangs-in-uk-thrived-in-culture-of-ignorance-casey-report-says https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/16/grooming-gan... https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-what-happened-what-inquiries-there-were-and-how-starmer-was-involved-after-elon-musks-accusations-13285021 https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-w... How the grooming gangs scandal was covered up https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/f247768ad7912bdc https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/f247768ad7912bdc https://theweek.com/crime/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-explained https://theweek.com/crime/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-explain... https://womenagainstrape.net/statement-rape-and-grooming-gangs-the-key-issue-is-not-race-but-police-corruption-collusion-and-cover-up/ https://womenagainstrape.net/statement-rape-and-grooming-gan...
        scott_w 1y ago
        None of your sources back up the claim. Straight up FP is lying, so you’re off to a fucking awful start. You can verify this against the News Agent interview I’ve mentioned for the third time now. Watch it on YouTube. I don’t have an Economist account but it doesn’t seem to mention coverup in be lede. Given it would be the biggest political story in Britain, I doubt it says coverup by politicians. Al Jazeera talks about the inquiry being ordered, still no coverup. Guardian talks about the disgustingly bad reporting standards of the police. Still no coverup by politicians. Sky News is a timeline of inquiries. Literal opposite of a fucking coverup. Telegraph is talking about the inquiry that Labour eventually launched. It’s lying about the use of the term coverup: no abuse was covered up by politicians by running, or not, an inquiry. The Week is an explainer for the scandal, no coverup by politicians. Women Against Rape are talking about the police, not politicians. Anyone knows, and I already mentioned, the failures of the police here. Did you seriously just waste your time finding links you obviously didn’t read to still fail to answer a simple fucking question: Where is the evidence that POLITICIANS covered up child abuse rings? That was the flagged comment and you have failed to back the claim.
SanjayMehta 1y ago
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- scott_w 1y ago
  So your answer is “no.”
  - SanjayMehta 1y ago
    My answer is “do your own research.” Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the last few decades, you would know that British Pakistani rape gangs have been shielded from prosecution. This only changed recently. FYI, the first documented such case is from 1973. Over 50 years of systematic abuse can only be hidden by a complicit establishment.
    - scott_w 1y ago
      You claimed that politicians are covering up child sex trafficking. Big claims require big evidence. If this were true, it would be the biggest scandal in British political history and everyone would know about it. Instead, you talk of the Rotherham scandal, which is not “politicians covering up/shielding from prosecution.” The fact you’re telling me “do your own research,” tells me you’re lying through your teeth because you can’t just show me the front page of a mainstream newspaper. The only person to even try showed evidence to the contrary: multiple parliamentary inquiries and debates. One last time: where is your evidence for the extraordinary claim that British politicians (Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem) have been covering up a sex child abuse scandal?
      - SanjayMehta 1y ago
        Do your own research.
        scott_w 1y ago
        You have nothing.

Evidence?

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-04-28/debates/2E70C054-1672-4660-9088-4D4DCE6AF45B/ChildRapeGangs https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-04-28/debates/2E7... Rather than jump into the raging press coverage or as some see it raging press coverup - here is a link to debate in UK Parliament that indicates there is an issue.

scott_w 1y ago
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- asimpleusecase 1y ago
  I was providing evidence that there was an issue. Not trying to take a side. You can retract your f**. Yes there is a debate now and it is very open, and there are many reports that it was not so open and people were hurt for a long time. Was that political cover up? Each can decide - but I think the debate shows there was a real issue.
  - scott_w 1y ago
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    - asimpleusecase 1y ago
      Here is the results of the following Google search “uk coverup of rape gangs” and the results https://www.thefp.com/p/muslim-grooming-gangs-cover-up-keir-starmer-elon-musk https://www.thefp.com/p/muslim-grooming-gangs-cover-up-keir-... https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/06/18/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-is-a-stain-on-the-british-state https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/06/18/the-grooming-ga... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/17/what-is-the-casey-report-on-uk-grooming-gangs-and-why-did-labour-u-turn https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/17/what-is-the-casey-r... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/16/grooming-gangs-in-uk-thrived-in-culture-of-ignorance-casey-report-says https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/16/grooming-gan... https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-what-happened-what-inquiries-there-were-and-how-starmer-was-involved-after-elon-musks-accusations-13285021 https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-w... How the grooming gangs scandal was covered up https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/f247768ad7912bdc https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/f247768ad7912bdc https://theweek.com/crime/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-explained https://theweek.com/crime/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-explain... https://womenagainstrape.net/statement-rape-and-grooming-gangs-the-key-issue-is-not-race-but-police-corruption-collusion-and-cover-up/ https://womenagainstrape.net/statement-rape-and-grooming-gan...
      - scott_w 1y ago
        None of your sources back up the claim. Straight up FP is lying, so you’re off to a fucking awful start. You can verify this against the News Agent interview I’ve mentioned for the third time now. Watch it on YouTube. I don’t have an Economist account but it doesn’t seem to mention coverup in be lede. Given it would be the biggest political story in Britain, I doubt it says coverup by politicians. Al Jazeera talks about the inquiry being ordered, still no coverup. Guardian talks about the disgustingly bad reporting standards of the police. Still no coverup by politicians. Sky News is a timeline of inquiries. Literal opposite of a fucking coverup. Telegraph is talking about the inquiry that Labour eventually launched. It’s lying about the use of the term coverup: no abuse was covered up by politicians by running, or not, an inquiry. The Week is an explainer for the scandal, no coverup by politicians. Women Against Rape are talking about the police, not politicians. Anyone knows, and I already mentioned, the failures of the police here. Did you seriously just waste your time finding links you obviously didn’t read to still fail to answer a simple fucking question: Where is the evidence that POLITICIANS covered up child abuse rings? That was the flagged comment and you have failed to back the claim.

SanjayMehta 1y ago

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scott_w 1y ago
So your answer is “no.”
- SanjayMehta 1y ago
  My answer is “do your own research.” Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the last few decades, you would know that British Pakistani rape gangs have been shielded from prosecution. This only changed recently. FYI, the first documented such case is from 1973. Over 50 years of systematic abuse can only be hidden by a complicit establishment.
  - scott_w 1y ago
    You claimed that politicians are covering up child sex trafficking. Big claims require big evidence. If this were true, it would be the biggest scandal in British political history and everyone would know about it. Instead, you talk of the Rotherham scandal, which is not “politicians covering up/shielding from prosecution.” The fact you’re telling me “do your own research,” tells me you’re lying through your teeth because you can’t just show me the front page of a mainstream newspaper. The only person to even try showed evidence to the contrary: multiple parliamentary inquiries and debates. One last time: where is your evidence for the extraordinary claim that British politicians (Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem) have been covering up a sex child abuse scandal?
    - SanjayMehta 1y ago
      Do your own research.
      - scott_w 1y ago
        You have nothing.