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> Not sure why very nice people on the internet are apologizing for laws that prohibit ripping off other people's work. These laws are very important. FYI, I'm
by jMyles 1y ago
> Not sure why very nice people on the internet are apologizing for laws that prohibit ripping off other people's work. These laws are very important.
FYI, I'm a bluegrass musician. And I don't know who you think these laws are important for, but it sure as heck isn't us. The copyright industrial complex is screwing musicians first and foremost.
> The guy clearly understood he was stealing,
...then he understood wrong. Stealing is when you take something from someone. In that case, the person from whom you stole no longer has that thing. Copying is not stealing.
If you regard copying as stealing, then I encourage you to steal my music. And if you like it, encourage your friends to steal it from you.
- otterley 1y agoCopyright, like property rights in general, is really about control, not about physical things or spaces. Stealing is when you usurp control for yourself over the rightful owner’s objections. If you tell people to take your stuff or use it however they like, they can’t be stealing.
- card_zero 1y agoSo assault is stealing now? Trespass, trespassing is stealing too, would you say?
- otterley 1y agoYour response feels needlessly argumentative. Stealing is just a term that relates to an object or a work. Assault relates to bodily autonomy, and trespassing relates to a physical space.
- card_zero 1y ago[flagged]
- otterley 1y ago[flagged]
- card_zero 1y agoThat, although it's true that stealing is taking without permission, it must involve taking away, and not merely copying, just as trespass is not stealing somebody's land and assault is not stealing their body.
- otterley 1y agoFor better or worse, common use of the term “stealing” has expanded over time to apply to copyright infringement. I didn’t make this up on my own. BTW, even trespass can be construed as stealing someone’s land if the perpetrator claims it as his own and tries to then exclude the rightful owner.
- card_zero 1y agoYes! For worse. It's possible to resist this! I think people know it's kind of metaphorical anyway. Hey you stole my idea! You stole my joke! Stealing credit for an idea makes sense, I guess. • That is not mere trespass! I don't know what the name for that is. Land theft? Dispossession?