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What is that, 6 years for less than a doubling? Nothing against the Apple chips themselves, but gone are the days of Moore...
by jackothy 1y ago
What is that, 6 years for less than a doubling? Nothing against the Apple chips themselves, but gone are the days of Moore...
- epicureanideal 1y agoNot necessarily. If single core speed doubled but we also doubled or tripled the number of cores, doesn’t that count as keeping up with Moore?
- jl6 1y agoM1 has 16bn transistors, M4 has 28bn. Increasing the core count is useful for some applications (particularly GPU cores), but there are still many critical workloads that are gated by single-threaded performance.
- CyberDildonics 1y agoThat's not what was being talked about. Moore's law was never about single threaded performance, it was about transistor count and transistor cost, but people misunderstood it when single threaded performance was increasing exponentially.
- jl6 1y agoGP mentions cores and the article is about benchmarks. The relationship between transistor count, core count, and performance, is exactly on topic.
- CyberDildonics 1y agoSingle core performance and transistor count are not the same thing and have been disconnected for two decades.
- jl6 1y agoDid you think I said otherwise?
- CyberDildonics 1y agoMoore's law was about transistors and cost, you were equating it to performance. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45434910 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45434910 Your reply here is not directly related or an answer to the comment you replied to.
- jl6 1y agoYou have brought a lot of your own assumptions to that reading. OP asked if doubling or tripling core count counted as keeping up with Moore’s law. I pointed out that in the case of the M series (the topic of the thread), regardless of core count, transistor count did not double or triple.
- danhon 1y agoMoore was just about the transistor count doubling. Not performance.
- jackothy 1y agoPerformance is an excellent proxy for transistor count. Somebody else replied with the actual transistor counts, which had basically equal scaling.