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A community doesn't exist for "the majority of the world". It exists for its community. If a community doesn't want bigots (as they shouldn't), they absolutely
by OkayPhysicist 1y ago
A community doesn't exist for "the majority of the world". It exists for its community. If a community doesn't want bigots (as they shouldn't), they absolutely should exclude them.
- aidenn0 1y agoI just haven't seen CoCs effectively reduce the bigots in a community; they either are toothless, or have teeth and lead to a j'accuse breakdown. It is a tiny fraction of the people I know and have interacted with over an extended period of time who has not made a remark that could be construed as bigoted. I have seen moderators called bigots for suspending (instead of banning) someone who made an inappropriate remark. My wife and I have been accused (behind our back) of misgendering someone when we were using the pronouns that we had privately confirmed she preferred. If you create a CoC with real teeth, then instead of the BDFL or core team or whatever controlling who is in the community, it's the people in the community who are most interested in accusing people of violating the CoC that have control over who is in the community.
- skissane 1y agoIf a community wants to exclude many millions-even billions-of people around the world, including the population supermajority of dozens of countries, and all those who seriously believe in the traditional teachings of any one of several major religious traditions-and denigrate those people it excludes as “bigots”-well, maybe that in itself is a form of bigotry, and hence their labelling others “bigots” is a case of “the pot calling the kettle black”