> "We can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them," Trump said. "We can cut large numbers of people. We don't want to do that

> "We can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them," Trump said. "We can cut large numbers of people. We don't want to do that, but we don't want fraud, waste and abuse." "Nice civil service you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it."