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Even with OP's kind of sorting, office chat products conceal the priority of any given message to trick you into more participation. The "purpose of a system i

Even with OP's kind of sorting, office chat products conceal the priority of any given message to trick you into more participation. The "purpose of a system is what it does" style thinking can get carried away, but more than 99% of the messages in places I will be expected to notice things that require same day attention, don't. The goal is to waste my time. I rarely have >3 unscheduled conversations in a day that couldn't wait until tomorrow morning. They just never come from the same place. It's a yappers paradise. They wouldn't include me on an email where they deliberately have to pick participants, but think the serendipity will occur down the road justifies forcefeeding me whatever bullshit they're working on just in case.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago
I think this has gotten worse with time. In the early days back when Slack still had a barely modified standard chat UI, it wasn’t nearly as much of a problem. Most of the UI changes made since then have been “solutions” to problems caused by their other changes. I’d love to have original the origins design back.
heymynameisrob 1y ago
This is the problem with everything being 'chat'. It's not designed for having single-concern conversation or managing priority or intent. It's there for call-reply. We switched to cushion.so which is async. We use posts, pretty much like a post here, for most conversations. It uses a message board-like approach where it makes sense. You don't need to be pinged constantly for everything. Especially when theres 10 people all discussing the same thing that might not be a priority for you right now. Then you can just use chat for direct high shit-is-on-fire messaging. Problem is Slack is designed to get to you to constantly chat, chat, chat. So that's what you end up doing. Made our lives 10x easier.
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cosmic_cheese 1y ago

I think this has gotten worse with time. In the early days back when Slack still had a barely modified standard chat UI, it wasn’t nearly as much of a problem. Most of the UI changes made since then have been “solutions” to problems caused by their other changes. I’d love to have original the origins design back.

heymynameisrob 1y ago

This is the problem with everything being 'chat'. It's not designed for having single-concern conversation or managing priority or intent. It's there for call-reply. We switched to cushion.so which is async. We use posts, pretty much like a post here, for most conversations. It uses a message board-like approach where it makes sense. You don't need to be pinged constantly for everything. Especially when theres 10 people all discussing the same thing that might not be a priority for you right now. Then you can just use chat for direct high shit-is-on-fire messaging. Problem is Slack is designed to get to you to constantly chat, chat, chat. So that's what you end up doing. Made our lives 10x easier.

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