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This is super cool and fun and will almost certainly be really bad for society in loads of different ways. From the descriptions of all the guardrails they're n

This is super cool and fun and will almost certainly be really bad for society in loads of different ways. From the descriptions of all the guardrails they're needing to put in it seems like they know it too.

bbor 1y ago
Glad to see someone is looking out for a forest, here. A diverse host of excuses have cropped up to explain away the anxiety AGI brings, and I totally understand why. Yet again, today we stare into the abyss. Sora 2 represents significant progress towards [AGI]. In keeping with OpenAI’s mission, it is important that humanity benefits from these models as they are developed. This seems like a good time to remind ourselves of the original OpenAI charter: https://web.archive.org/web/20230714043611/https://openai.com/charter https://web.archive.org/web/20230714043611/https://openai.co... I wonder how exactly they reconcile the quote above with "We are concerned about late-stage AGI development becoming a competitive race without time for adequate safety precautions"...
- nurettin 1y ago
  I am not for or against AGI, but why is there anxiety around it? Do people simply hear sales rhetoric and assume that it can exist and will be used in order to dominate their lives?
  - bbor 1y ago
    I'm not referencing sales rhetoric, I'm referencing scientific consensus. AGI will have the same kind of impact on our species as fire and electricity did. We stand at a crossroads between unimaginable success and enormous catastrophe...
    - nurettin 1y ago
      Well, good luck with that, hopefully it will learn to spell blueberry.
askl 1y ago
But think of all the 0 legitimate use cases for this technology.
- giancarlostoro 1y ago
  So being able to generate sign language videos for people who cannot hear is not a legitimate use case for AI videos? Or is your hate boner for AI just blinding you from useful applications?
  - School-Cotton 1y ago
    Why can’t sign language be written? Why does it need to be on video?
    - ascorbic 1y ago
      There isn't a standard written form of any major sign languages
      - School-Cotton 1y ago
        Yes, but there’s no fundamental reason why there couldn’t be one. It’s not a good reason to accept all the downsides of AI.
        vunderba 1y ago
        AI is irrelevant to the reason why there isn't a written version of every single national dialect of sign language. The reason it doesn't exist is because it would serve no purpose (source: many deaf friends). Deaf communities learn the country's writing system just like everyone else. The closest thing out there is SignWriting [1] which has about as much traction in the real world as esperanto. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting
      - giancarlostoro 1y ago
        ASL would be the target, but also the hand motions might not be universal to convey.

bbor 1y ago

Glad to see someone is looking out for a forest, here. A diverse host of excuses have cropped up to explain away the anxiety AGI brings, and I totally understand why. Yet again, today we stare into the abyss. Sora 2 represents significant progress towards [AGI]. In keeping with OpenAI’s mission, it is important that humanity benefits from these models as they are developed. This seems like a good time to remind ourselves of the original OpenAI charter: https://web.archive.org/web/20230714043611/https://openai.com/charter https://web.archive.org/web/20230714043611/https://openai.co... I wonder how exactly they reconcile the quote above with "We are concerned about late-stage AGI development becoming a competitive race without time for adequate safety precautions"...

nurettin 1y ago
I am not for or against AGI, but why is there anxiety around it? Do people simply hear sales rhetoric and assume that it can exist and will be used in order to dominate their lives?
- bbor 1y ago
  I'm not referencing sales rhetoric, I'm referencing scientific consensus. AGI will have the same kind of impact on our species as fire and electricity did. We stand at a crossroads between unimaginable success and enormous catastrophe...
  - nurettin 1y ago
    Well, good luck with that, hopefully it will learn to spell blueberry.

askl 1y ago

But think of all the 0 legitimate use cases for this technology.

giancarlostoro 1y ago
So being able to generate sign language videos for people who cannot hear is not a legitimate use case for AI videos? Or is your hate boner for AI just blinding you from useful applications?
- School-Cotton 1y ago
  Why can’t sign language be written? Why does it need to be on video?
  - ascorbic 1y ago
    There isn't a standard written form of any major sign languages
    - School-Cotton 1y ago
      Yes, but there’s no fundamental reason why there couldn’t be one. It’s not a good reason to accept all the downsides of AI.
      - vunderba 1y ago
        AI is irrelevant to the reason why there isn't a written version of every single national dialect of sign language. The reason it doesn't exist is because it would serve no purpose (source: many deaf friends). Deaf communities learn the country's writing system just like everyone else. The closest thing out there is SignWriting [1] which has about as much traction in the real world as esperanto. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting
    - giancarlostoro 1y ago
      ASL would be the target, but also the hand motions might not be universal to convey.