>> It’s not as bad if you can exclude stuff from copyright and then use that Making a copy of a news article etc to train with is on the face of it copyright i

>> It’s not as bad if you can exclude stuff from copyright and then use that Making a copy of a news article etc to train with is on the face of it copyright infringement even before you start training. Doing that for OSS is on the other hand fine, but there’s not that much OSS. I think training itself could reasonably be considered fair use on a case by case basis. Train a neural network to just directly reproduce a work being obviously problematic etc. There’s plenty of ambiguity here.