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> The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting What rumors have you seen? Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea dow

> The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting What rumors have you seen? Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. Is there more evidence this is happening? If anything, Apple's recent moves to "macify" iPadOS indicate their strategy is to tempt people over into the locked down ecosystem, rather than bring the (more) open macOS to the iPad.

wlesieutre 1y ago
https://x.com/mingchikuo/status/1968249865940709538 https://x.com/mingchikuo/status/1968249865940709538 > @mingchikuo > MacBook models will feature a touch panel for the first time, further blurring the line with the iPad. This shift appears to reflect Apple’s long-term observation of iPad user behavior, indicating that in certain scenarios, touch controls can enhance both productivity and the overall user experience. > 1. The OLED MacBook Pro, expected to enter mass production by late 2026, will incorporate a touch panel using on-cell touch technology. > 2. The more affordable MacBook model powered by an iPhone processor, slated for mass production in 4Q25, will not support a touch panel. Specifications for its second-generation version, anticipated in 2027, remain under discussion and could include touch support.
cosmic_cheese 1y ago
Current rumors point to the M6 generation of MBPs being a significant redesign and featuring an OLED touch panel screen. I don't understand the appeal, even a little bit. Reaching up to touch the screen is awkward, and every large touchpanel I've used has had to trade off antiglare coating effectiveness to accomodate oleophobic coating. For me, this would be an objective downgrade — the touch capability would never get used, but poor antiglare would be a constant thorn in my side. I can only hope that it's an option and not mandatory, and I may upgrade once the M5 generation releases (which is supposedly just a spec bump) as insurance.
- mc32 1y ago
  Smudges are off-putting... but, there are times when it would be very convenient to be able to scroll or click on a touchscreen. There are times when presenting when a touchscreen would be preferred over a mouse or touchpad. It's not often, but they are nice to have. And, in regards to smudges, I mean, just don't use the touchscreen unless you have to and problem avoided. Antiglare can be a thing but that can be avoided by avoiding string lighting behind you.
  - cosmic_cheese 1y ago
    There's still the issue of accidentally triggering things (when e.g. adjusting the screen) and sometimes you don't have control of your surrounding lighting. I'd still prefer touch to be entirely optional.
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- WillAdams 1y ago
  It's convenient, and it also makes usage of a stylus far easier. FWIW, I often rotate my Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 so that the screen is in portrait mode, then hold the laptop as if it's a book and use a stylus and touch on the display with my right hand, and operate the keyboard for modifiers/shortcuts with my left, or open it flat on a lapdesk.
latexr 1y ago
> Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. They also said they weren’t merging iOS and macOS, and with every release that becomes more of a lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYikXbC6Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYikXbC6Fs
- CharlesW 1y ago
  Strategies change. That was 7 years ago, pre-Apple Silicon. It turns out that people want windowing options on their large and expensive tablet, to do long-running tasks in the background, etc.
  - jtbayly 1y ago
    If that were all they were doing, nobody would be concerned. It’s the crapifying of the MacOS in order to make it work fine with a touch interface that drives everybody bonkers about the slow merge.
    - jama211 1y ago
      I have Tahoe and it’s just as good at being a desktop os as any of the previous os’s. Not sure what you’re referring to.
      - ethanwillis 1y ago
        There have been lots of complaints all over the place that contradict your experience. One article that talks about it: https://osxdaily.com/2025/09/19/why-im-holding-off-on-upgrading-to-macos-tahoe-26-for-now/ https://osxdaily.com/2025/09/19/why-im-holding-off-on-upgrad... For less discerning users maybe the rough edges aren't that noticeable. But the point of choosing Apple products is you should be a discerning consumer.
        detourdog 1y ago
        This a pretty insulting comment. I’m sure ther is better word then discerning.
justinator 1y ago
Chances that there are both a folding iPhone and a Touchscreen Mac somewhere in the skunk works of Cupertino are 100%. The Apple Vision Pro was a far more extreme product and was kept pretty well under wraps. (tho a market failure).
- dwaite 1y ago
  The line for market success for a first generation, $3500 VR headset is drawn in different places for different people.
  - justinator 1y ago
    Market success? I'd go with profitability. Beta quality and expense without value are just some of the reasons for it's failure.

wlesieutre 1y ago

https://x.com/mingchikuo/status/1968249865940709538 https://x.com/mingchikuo/status/1968249865940709538 > @mingchikuo > MacBook models will feature a touch panel for the first time, further blurring the line with the iPad. This shift appears to reflect Apple’s long-term observation of iPad user behavior, indicating that in certain scenarios, touch controls can enhance both productivity and the overall user experience. > 1. The OLED MacBook Pro, expected to enter mass production by late 2026, will incorporate a touch panel using on-cell touch technology. > 2. The more affordable MacBook model powered by an iPhone processor, slated for mass production in 4Q25, will not support a touch panel. Specifications for its second-generation version, anticipated in 2027, remain under discussion and could include touch support.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago

Current rumors point to the M6 generation of MBPs being a significant redesign and featuring an OLED touch panel screen. I don't understand the appeal, even a little bit. Reaching up to touch the screen is awkward, and every large touchpanel I've used has had to trade off antiglare coating effectiveness to accomodate oleophobic coating. For me, this would be an objective downgrade — the touch capability would never get used, but poor antiglare would be a constant thorn in my side. I can only hope that it's an option and not mandatory, and I may upgrade once the M5 generation releases (which is supposedly just a spec bump) as insurance.

mc32 1y ago
Smudges are off-putting... but, there are times when it would be very convenient to be able to scroll or click on a touchscreen. There are times when presenting when a touchscreen would be preferred over a mouse or touchpad. It's not often, but they are nice to have. And, in regards to smudges, I mean, just don't use the touchscreen unless you have to and problem avoided. Antiglare can be a thing but that can be avoided by avoiding string lighting behind you.
- cosmic_cheese 1y ago
  There's still the issue of accidentally triggering things (when e.g. adjusting the screen) and sometimes you don't have control of your surrounding lighting. I'd still prefer touch to be entirely optional.
- deleted 1y ago
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WillAdams 1y ago
It's convenient, and it also makes usage of a stylus far easier. FWIW, I often rotate my Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 so that the screen is in portrait mode, then hold the laptop as if it's a book and use a stylus and touch on the display with my right hand, and operate the keyboard for modifiers/shortcuts with my left, or open it flat on a lapdesk.

latexr 1y ago

> Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. They also said they weren’t merging iOS and macOS, and with every release that becomes more of a lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYikXbC6Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYikXbC6Fs

CharlesW 1y ago
Strategies change. That was 7 years ago, pre-Apple Silicon. It turns out that people want windowing options on their large and expensive tablet, to do long-running tasks in the background, etc.
- jtbayly 1y ago
  If that were all they were doing, nobody would be concerned. It’s the crapifying of the MacOS in order to make it work fine with a touch interface that drives everybody bonkers about the slow merge.
  - jama211 1y ago
    I have Tahoe and it’s just as good at being a desktop os as any of the previous os’s. Not sure what you’re referring to.
    - ethanwillis 1y ago
      There have been lots of complaints all over the place that contradict your experience. One article that talks about it: https://osxdaily.com/2025/09/19/why-im-holding-off-on-upgrading-to-macos-tahoe-26-for-now/ https://osxdaily.com/2025/09/19/why-im-holding-off-on-upgrad... For less discerning users maybe the rough edges aren't that noticeable. But the point of choosing Apple products is you should be a discerning consumer.
      - detourdog 1y ago
        This a pretty insulting comment. I’m sure ther is better word then discerning.

justinator 1y ago

Chances that there are both a folding iPhone and a Touchscreen Mac somewhere in the skunk works of Cupertino are 100%. The Apple Vision Pro was a far more extreme product and was kept pretty well under wraps. (tho a market failure).

dwaite 1y ago
The line for market success for a first generation, $3500 VR headset is drawn in different places for different people.
- justinator 1y ago
  Market success? I'd go with profitability. Beta quality and expense without value are just some of the reasons for it's failure.