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The point is that the list price of $22k is basically fake if a full system costs $80-100k. It's like saying that a car costs $22k, but you can't buy it without
by datadrivenangel 1y ago
The point is that the list price of $22k is basically fake if a full system costs $80-100k. It's like saying that a car costs $22k, but you can't buy it without also getting a $60k lifetime support contract.
- matthewdgreen 1y agoThere is "fake" as in, we offer the thing at $22k but this is a made-up price and we'd be losing tens of thousands per unit if we couldn't upsell the necessary tooling. Then there's "not fake" as in, the hardware is profitable (or at least break-even) at a list price of $22k, and the tooling is expensive because it makes sense to charge a lot to developers. These things put you at different places when scale starts to increase. It's extremely common for dev tooling to be extremely expensive, even for widgets that sell for a few bucks at the retail level.
- bluGill 1y agoWhy does the full system cost 80-100k though? Can I buy 1 full system at 100k, and then 10,000 at the list price? What is the difference. If I sign a contract to buy 1 million next year (thus giving you time to build an better assembly line) can you get the per unit price down?
- Animats 1y agoIt's worse than that for light trucks: - Ford F-150 base price: $39,645. - Ford F-150 Raptor R: $115,015.