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You have a curated directory of actually decent stuff, and you list the item there. Don't wrestle with the pigs.

by wizzwizz4 1y ago

Matticus_Rex 1y ago
What do you do with the other two wishes from the genie?
- dylan604 1y ago
  Whirled Peas could be one of them
- account42 1y ago
  If no one chooses to be the change they want to see in the world then things can only keep getting worse.
  - Matticus_Rex 1y ago
    If you're making a great product and you choose to make sure you don't get traction by taking this route (assuming you're not in one of the few niches where it might be somewhat viable), you're just making sure you don't succeed and that worse products with better advertising are relatively more successful. How would that make the world better?
dylan604 1y ago
And how do you get people to view said directory if they've never heard of it?
- thesuitonym 1y ago
  Consider that Hacker News does not advertise, and yet somehow you are here.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    Hacker News does not depend on me buying products from it for it's survival. If you can't see the difference in why a company cannot depend on word of mouth, then you're just really not trying to have an honest conversation.
    - tcfhgj 1y ago
      Plenty companies don't advertise by shoving unwanted ads in people's faces.
      - dylan604 1y ago
        There are plenty of companies I haven't heard of. QED
        tcfhgj 1y ago
        and yet they survive somehow
        nickff 1y ago
        Many of them don't. Consider that BMW famously didn't run ads for most of its history... but now it does.
        tcfhgj 1y ago
        Many doing ads don't.
    - account42 1y ago
      Hacker News depends on a constant stream of new users to keep the site alive, just like any other discussion forum. But you're right that unlike the average company this site seems to be OK with a stable but small user base and isn't aiming for unbounded exponential growth.
  - 1y ago
- lupusreal 1y ago
  It's the way it used to be done with paper catalogues. If you're looking for a snowmobile then you go get a snowmobile catalog from a dealer who you looked up in a phonebook. But advertisers don't want to wait for somebody to decide they want a thing, they want to brainwash otherwise content people into wanting something they didn't previously want.
zahlman 1y ago
And how do you establish trust to curate it?

You have a curated directory of actually decent stuff, and you list the item there. Don't wrestle with the pigs.

Matticus_Rex 1y ago

What do you do with the other two wishes from the genie?

dylan604 1y ago
Whirled Peas could be one of them
account42 1y ago
If no one chooses to be the change they want to see in the world then things can only keep getting worse.
- Matticus_Rex 1y ago
  If you're making a great product and you choose to make sure you don't get traction by taking this route (assuming you're not in one of the few niches where it might be somewhat viable), you're just making sure you don't succeed and that worse products with better advertising are relatively more successful. How would that make the world better?

dylan604 1y ago

And how do you get people to view said directory if they've never heard of it?

thesuitonym 1y ago
Consider that Hacker News does not advertise, and yet somehow you are here.
- dylan604 1y ago
  Hacker News does not depend on me buying products from it for it's survival. If you can't see the difference in why a company cannot depend on word of mouth, then you're just really not trying to have an honest conversation.
  - tcfhgj 1y ago
    Plenty companies don't advertise by shoving unwanted ads in people's faces.
    - dylan604 1y ago
      There are plenty of companies I haven't heard of. QED
      - tcfhgj 1y ago
        and yet they survive somehow
        nickff 1y ago
        Many of them don't. Consider that BMW famously didn't run ads for most of its history... but now it does.
        tcfhgj 1y ago
        Many doing ads don't.
  - account42 1y ago
    Hacker News depends on a constant stream of new users to keep the site alive, just like any other discussion forum. But you're right that unlike the average company this site seems to be OK with a stable but small user base and isn't aiming for unbounded exponential growth.
- 1y ago
lupusreal 1y ago
It's the way it used to be done with paper catalogues. If you're looking for a snowmobile then you go get a snowmobile catalog from a dealer who you looked up in a phonebook. But advertisers don't want to wait for somebody to decide they want a thing, they want to brainwash otherwise content people into wanting something they didn't previously want.

zahlman 1y ago

And how do you establish trust to curate it?