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It's not specific to the UK: many developed countries are cracking down on Internet businesses. There's going to be an awful lot of regulation, and it will be i
by cjs_ac 1y ago
It's not specific to the UK: many developed countries are cracking down on Internet businesses. There's going to be an awful lot of regulation, and it will be incompatible between different countries. The one-model-fits-the-whole-world style of business is over: you're going to be confined to national borders again.
The opinion polls are clear: the normies want this.
- BeFlatXIII 1y ago> The opinion polls are clear: the normies want this. Giving normies the vote was a mistake.
- cudgy 1y agoSo only snobby elitists get to vote?
- hactually 1y agoyeah damn, i guess that's it. That's the dichotomy. You're either an elitist snobs or a normies. No nuance, no qualification.
- widerworldweb 1y agoI know; we should make being able to vote contingent on understanding the word "nuance". There; now you have the best of both worlds ;)
- cudgy 1y agoCalling people “normies” is elitist and snobish, so there is a dichotomy.
- sph 1y agoAllowing the media to be controlled by government interests, which the normies follow blindly as thinking is hard, was the bigger mistake. Opinion polls are bullshit and just an indicator of propaganda effectiveness.
- agedclock 1y agoI left this reply on a sibling thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45432347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45432347 The often cited YouGov polling, I think sampled a few thousand people. There are almost 2.5 million signatures on petitions between the OSA and Digital ID.
- lizardking 1y agoFound Moldbug's alt
- satellite2 1y agoWhere do you get your conclusion from?
- cjs_ac 1y agoIf you mean the opinion polls, I don't have any to hand, but there have been a few articles submitted to /r/ukpolitics since the Online Safety Act took effect detailing opinion polls showing that the UK Government's regulation of internet content has been well-received by the wider public (although the userbase of that subreddit has vociferously disagreed).
- agedclock 1y agoYou are probably talking about the YouGov poll. The poll asked a clearly leading question IMO. You can get any result you want by asking leading questions on polling. This was of course satirised by Yes Minister. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA I can counter any of the iffy polls by simple point to the official online petitions service. There were a huge number of signatures to revoke OSA and two million signatures to abolish the plans for the Digital ID. While the Digital ID is technically a separate issue, many of the same privacy concerns are present. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903?pubDate=20250729 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903?pubDate=2025... https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194 The number of people that signed these petitions is far more representative than any polling. On top of that, recently I've seen reportrs of both the Liberal Democrats and Reform (the two largest parties after the main two) recongising the OSA as unpopular and are likely to suggest reforming/removing it. On top of that. The labour government and the conservative government that proceeded it which created the OSA were/are both deeply unpopular. So any notion that there is a popular mandate for this is nonsense.
- Alex-Programs 1y agoThe Bristol young lib dems oppose it, but the parliamentary party doesn't think it goes far enough. The Bristol lot are great, I talked to them about it, but they're unlikely to change things on the national level.