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In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employer? Something like the analogue to the “Reddit-infused worker” archetype, where leadership is inappropriate

In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employer? Something like the analogue to the “Reddit-infused worker” archetype, where leadership is inappropriately cynical about their workers and see them as “the enemy”?

Aurornis 1y ago
> In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employer? Of course. If you don’t see that, you’re missing the point. In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employee? Or do you assume all employees are inherently good and do appropriate work for their pay and don’t need constant performance management to simply do their job? In my posts I’m not talking about all juniors. I’m talking about a problematic subset. You seem to be assuming I’m generalizing to all of them. I am not. This is a phenomenon specific to a subset of juniors that is unfortunately a repeated pattern where they all share some very common and obvious characteristics. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to break them out of that mindset and have them join their much happier peers, but to be honest once someone is that deep into the cynical mindset it’s hard to wake them out of it.
- rectang 1y ago
  > In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employee? Of course — I implied as much via the “inappropriately cynical“ characterization. The tension between capital and labor is inescapable and ancient. I didn’t think you were generalizing to all juniors. Rather, what caught my interest was that before this last message I perceived the perspective of capital in your words.
  - Gormo 1y ago
    I wouldn't call the categories calcified in a conflict-oriented prescriptive ideology dating to the 19th century to be "ancient", but I suppose YMMV.
bigfatkitten 1y ago
> In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employer? Yes. My employer has gone all in on the AI bandwagon. To achieve this, they lay off around 10% of the workforce every February to free up capital for whichever AI fad they wish to pursue that FY, all the while spouting the usual bullshit about being a "family". I could make a lot more money elsewhere working 12 month fixed term contracts, with possible extensions, than I do as a "permanent" employee doing effectively the same thing.

Aurornis 1y ago

> In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employer? Of course. If you don’t see that, you’re missing the point. In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employee? Or do you assume all employees are inherently good and do appropriate work for their pay and don’t need constant performance management to simply do their job? In my posts I’m not talking about all juniors. I’m talking about a problematic subset. You seem to be assuming I’m generalizing to all of them. I am not. This is a phenomenon specific to a subset of juniors that is unfortunately a repeated pattern where they all share some very common and obvious characteristics. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to break them out of that mindset and have them join their much happier peers, but to be honest once someone is that deep into the cynical mindset it’s hard to wake them out of it.

rectang 1y ago
> In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employee? Of course — I implied as much via the “inappropriately cynical“ characterization. The tension between capital and labor is inescapable and ancient. I didn’t think you were generalizing to all juniors. Rather, what caught my interest was that before this last message I perceived the perspective of capital in your words.
- Gormo 1y ago
  I wouldn't call the categories calcified in a conflict-oriented prescriptive ideology dating to the 19th century to be "ancient", but I suppose YMMV.

bigfatkitten 1y ago

> In your world, is there such a thing as a bad employer? Yes. My employer has gone all in on the AI bandwagon. To achieve this, they lay off around 10% of the workforce every February to free up capital for whichever AI fad they wish to pursue that FY, all the while spouting the usual bullshit about being a "family". I could make a lot more money elsewhere working 12 month fixed term contracts, with possible extensions, than I do as a "permanent" employee doing effectively the same thing.