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YouTube caves to Trump with $24.5M settlement

58 points by latexr 1y ago

tdeck 1y ago
I wonder what they are being threatened with behind closed doors. Google has the money to fight this lawsuit.
- mc32 1y ago
  Probably the same stick all admins have: the threat of letting the DOJ pursue anti-monopolistic behavior. If they "behave" the DOJ lets them continue in their ways. If they don't they allow the possibility of getting the giants split up.
  - notgoodrobot 1y ago
    I think op means, I wonder what it means to "behave" in this context. I wonder what is actually being pursued?
jmpman 1y ago
Money going to a ballroom…
- swarnie 1y ago
  In unexpected news Larry E. and Jared K. have just announced the formation of a ballroom building company. Who saw that coming?
joemazerino 1y ago
"Caves" is doing heavy lifting work here. Censoring a president should come with repercussions.
- Retric 1y ago
  No, compelled speech falls under free speech. You can kick people off a platform because you disagree with them. They can even demonetize people for perfectly legal activities. So, legally YouTube is fine, politically things are different.
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - FireBeyond 1y ago
    Precisely, these platforms are settling specifically because this president openly looks to punish and hold grudges and have vendettas against whom he sees, and describes, as his enemies. This is a matter of Google saying "he can do more than $25M of damage to us if we keep fighting this".
- Fairburn 1y ago
  Kick rocks. Pres. Bonespurs was a civi at the time and a full-on pos that deserved to be kicked off.
- scuff3d 1y ago
  Not when that president incites a terrorist attack against the US government...
  - lenkite 1y ago
    You mean the one in which there were 275 federal agents - some of which who were extremely fit and masked people who broke open windows, urging people to get in. Also hit and shoved away the unmasked protestors who asked them what the hell they were doing ?
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      You're saying Trump was voted out so the FBI(?) tried to stop the count. And then the Biden DOJ decided not to prosecute them? Seems plausible.
    - scuff3d 1y ago
      People are really living in their own reality these days. Don't know how we get back to any level of sanity when a non-trivial portion of the population is this detached from reality. Sadly this is also why no matter how corrupt Trump gets, his base won't abandon him. The God Emperor can do no wrong.
guywithahat 1y ago
"caves" is an odd word choice. The platform banned the president of the united states, libeling him in the process, which feels like a pretty big and harmful deal. I don't want big tech regulating which politicians we're allowed to know about, and I would imagine most people would agree whether it's about a Republican or Democrat.
- zenitsukz 1y ago
  Average politician hasn't tried to steal an election though
  - pacman1337 1y ago
    Many people have difficulty understanding the difference between a belief and a fact. I.e, you are talking about a belief but talking like it is a fact.
    - zenitsukz 1y ago
      Sorry, what exactly is "not a fact" about it?
      - guywithahat 1y ago
        I mean Meta, X, and Google have all paid him out so far. Why would you think he tried to steal the election? What lead you to this belief? I don't think I know anyone in real life who holds this belief, I genuinely don't know why someone would think this.
        zenitsukz 1y ago
        Not sure what these companies paying the authoritarian tax is supposed to say about anything other than the president openly takes bribes. > I don't think I know anyone in real life who holds this belief Maybe you just don't know anyone who knows any of the facts? -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
Fairburn 1y ago
Weak as water

58 points by latexr 1y ago

tdeck 1y ago

I wonder what they are being threatened with behind closed doors. Google has the money to fight this lawsuit.

mc32 1y ago
Probably the same stick all admins have: the threat of letting the DOJ pursue anti-monopolistic behavior. If they "behave" the DOJ lets them continue in their ways. If they don't they allow the possibility of getting the giants split up.
- notgoodrobot 1y ago
  I think op means, I wonder what it means to "behave" in this context. I wonder what is actually being pursued?

jmpman 1y ago

Money going to a ballroom…

swarnie 1y ago
In unexpected news Larry E. and Jared K. have just announced the formation of a ballroom building company. Who saw that coming?

joemazerino 1y ago

"Caves" is doing heavy lifting work here. Censoring a president should come with repercussions.

Retric 1y ago
No, compelled speech falls under free speech. You can kick people off a platform because you disagree with them. They can even demonetize people for perfectly legal activities. So, legally YouTube is fine, politically things are different.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- FireBeyond 1y ago
  Precisely, these platforms are settling specifically because this president openly looks to punish and hold grudges and have vendettas against whom he sees, and describes, as his enemies. This is a matter of Google saying "he can do more than $25M of damage to us if we keep fighting this".
Fairburn 1y ago
Kick rocks. Pres. Bonespurs was a civi at the time and a full-on pos that deserved to be kicked off.
scuff3d 1y ago
Not when that president incites a terrorist attack against the US government...
- lenkite 1y ago
  You mean the one in which there were 275 federal agents - some of which who were extremely fit and masked people who broke open windows, urging people to get in. Also hit and shoved away the unmasked protestors who asked them what the hell they were doing ?
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    You're saying Trump was voted out so the FBI(?) tried to stop the count. And then the Biden DOJ decided not to prosecute them? Seems plausible.
  - scuff3d 1y ago
    People are really living in their own reality these days. Don't know how we get back to any level of sanity when a non-trivial portion of the population is this detached from reality. Sadly this is also why no matter how corrupt Trump gets, his base won't abandon him. The God Emperor can do no wrong.

guywithahat 1y ago

"caves" is an odd word choice. The platform banned the president of the united states, libeling him in the process, which feels like a pretty big and harmful deal. I don't want big tech regulating which politicians we're allowed to know about, and I would imagine most people would agree whether it's about a Republican or Democrat.

zenitsukz 1y ago
Average politician hasn't tried to steal an election though
- pacman1337 1y ago
  Many people have difficulty understanding the difference between a belief and a fact. I.e, you are talking about a belief but talking like it is a fact.
  - zenitsukz 1y ago
    Sorry, what exactly is "not a fact" about it?
    - guywithahat 1y ago
      I mean Meta, X, and Google have all paid him out so far. Why would you think he tried to steal the election? What lead you to this belief? I don't think I know anyone in real life who holds this belief, I genuinely don't know why someone would think this.
      - zenitsukz 1y ago
        Not sure what these companies paying the authoritarian tax is supposed to say about anything other than the president openly takes bribes. > I don't think I know anyone in real life who holds this belief Maybe you just don't know anyone who knows any of the facts? -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

Fairburn 1y ago

Weak as water