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So this is the level of discourse the community has decided that best engages with Gruber's review? Just seven lines of banal vitriol and claims--without justif
by siglesias 14y ago
So this is the level of discourse the community has decided that best engages with Gruber's review? Just seven lines of banal vitriol and claims--without justification--that the review "reads more like a lover on his last moments of love" and "making a thinner, taller phone is not innovation."
The miniaturization of electronics is arguably one of the most significant trends of our technological era. Many of the great science fiction writers of the 50s and 60s, despite getting so much right, in large part missed miniaturization. What once filled rooms was reduced in the 80s to what could sit on a desk, and now to what can fit in our pockets. So making a thinner, taller phone is not innovation? Why?
I know that Apple isn't popular around these parts, but let's at least have an intelligent conversation about specifically what we find fault with instead of ranting and rage-upvoting incoherent rants.
- Kylekramer 14y agoI would say the relatively low level of discourse around Gruber's reviews are a reaction to his writing. The guy makes a career out of opinionated, mostly unsubstantiated one liners. Of course people are raring to give him a taste of his own medicine.
- alphang 14y ago> The guy makes a career out of opinionated, mostly unsubstantiated one liners. He also writes really good essays. Can we please also have more people delivering this kind of medicine? Look, I agree that Gruber has blinders on sometimes. (I thought his posts today about earPods was blindingly positive until the addendum.) But people seem to react with vitriol more than arguments.
- bluthru 14y ago>I know that Apple isn't popular around these parts Except that we know from surveys that most HN readers use Apple computers, phones, and tablets. And yet, even here, you can't appreciate feats of design, engineering, and usability without s vocal minority getting amusingly angry.
- sneak 14y agoThe median HN user is a white male who uses Chrome on OSX.
- dorian-graph 14y agoI'm not even sure they read the review otherwise they would've seen their very own selfs and comments prophesied. He spoke of the 'tech crowd' and of how the iPhone 5 is 'nice' which that certain crowd doesn't get.
- Steko 14y agoThe sad/pathetic/embarrassing thing is not that idiotic rants get posted but they are uncritically upvoted because ehrmagahd i hate x/y/z just like him! /click
- blrgeek 14y agoActually, I thought it was a point by point addressing his pretty large article dancing around the lacunae. Make no mistake - I think that the iPhone5 is an impressive piece of technology - as good or better than any other smart phone. But justifying Apple's design choices and changes is a whole other game. Could you please point out to any factual errors in what I wrote? And I stand by the fact that 'thinner, taller' phone when others have done as thin, and taller is not innovation. Esp when the thinner compromises battery life - which is much more important to most of those with iPhones.