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> I'm going to assume you're referring to people who are made to feel uncomfortable or are harassed by other members of the community. It has been my experienc
by yakshaving_jgt 1y ago
> I'm going to assume you're referring to people who are made to feel uncomfortable or are harassed by other members of the community.
It has been my experience that there are both members of groups typically regarded as marginalised who have been harrassed, and also members of groups typically regarded as marginalised who harass others. There are surely more variations of this too.
My most recent experience of this was a member of a group typically regarded as marginalised harassing one of my colleagues — who is also a member of a group typically regarded as marginalised, but perhaps less so if you subscribe to the legitimacy of intersectionality — at a software development conference with an established CoC.
The incident was reported, and the repercussions for the harasser amounted to exactly nil.
> So if that community doesn't have a CoC, and those members talk to the moderators, and the moderators take action... is that coercion too?
No.
> Is that the moderators or those members pushing their political views on the community?
That really depends on the circumstance.
> Should the moderators just not do anything?
Moderators should take action on CoC violations as proportionately, fairly, and impartially as they can.
> I'm going to push past this extraordinarily bad faith framing.
It is extraordinarily tiring and depressing that anything proffered that contradicts the orthodoxy of the culture that most readily endorses the establishment of CoCs is immediately dismissed as an argument in "bad faith".
- squigz 1y agoIt's likewise tiring and depressing that you framed everybody who wants CoCs the way you did. > No. Then I'm not sure why it would be coercion for them to talk to the moderators about writing down the rules.
- yakshaving_jgt 1y agoIt's strange — I wrote "sometimes", and you wrote "everybody". If I had meant "everybody", I would not have written "sometimes".