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To me the key element is the addiction aspect. It’s one thing to ingest a substance which has good short term results but bad long term ones, but entirely anoth
by keiferski 1y ago
To me the key element is the addiction aspect. It’s one thing to ingest a substance which has good short term results but bad long term ones, but entirely another when the machinery of corporations is used to maximize that usage and make it as addictive as possible.
As a side note, the movie The Insider by Michael Mann with Al Pacino and Russell Crowe is the single most effective anti-smoking thing I’ve come across. It shows how evil those corporations are and what they did to a whistleblower.
- andsoitis 1y agoYou say that as if smoking tobacco that does not come from corporations would not be addictive! All forms of tobacco are inherently addictive due to the presence of naturally occurring nicotine, which is the main driver of addiction.
- keiferski 1y agoPart of the scandal covered in The Insider is that tobacco companies deliberately added carcinogenic compounds to cigarettes in order to increase the impact of nicotine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_%26_Williamson#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_%26_Williamson#Controver... So sure, tobacco is still addictive, but as I said in my comment, my main issue is with the hacking/maximization of this by corporations. Especially when that hacking involves adding even more poisonous chemicals.
- lithocarpus 1y agoSee also, processed food!
- jjgreen 1y agoSmartphones are addictive and designed by large corporations to be so. Ready to give yours up?
- keiferski 1y agoNo, because I didn't say anything about forcing people to give up cigarettes. But it seems reasonable to me to have legislation that limits how addictive corporations can make them. Applying the same type of legislation to social media apps (for children, at least) seems reasonable to me.
- nmeofthestate 1y ago> legislation that limits how addictive corporations can make them Such legislation sounds hard to draw up.
- HPsquared 1y agoImportantly, they are designed BY large corporations TO BE addictive.
- Frieren 1y agoThat is a false dichotomy. I want a smartphone with apps that are heavy regulated against bad practices. - No dark patterns that make difficult to unsubscribe or that add automatically products to the basket - No promotion of hate and other highly emotional and highly addictive content - Limit the amount of daily ads so increasing retention time is not a goal - Removal of loot boxes and other gambling from games and other things like that. Medicines are dangerous and have a lot of regulations, nobody is asking to remove all medical products. That is a straw man argument.
- foogazi 1y agoNot everyone becomes addicted