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Ads in ChatGPT was the most obvious outcome from day 1. And this is not a bad thing, otherwise you can only image how many businesses will close when google tr

Ads in ChatGPT was the most obvious outcome from day 1. And this is not a bad thing, otherwise you can only image how many businesses will close when google traffic stars to decline. Everyone likes to hate on ads but the reality is that without ads 99% users even on hacker news would be jobless as the companies where they work will have no way to find clients, and even if they manage to find some - those clients won't be able to sell and will go out of business.

ElijahLynn 1y ago
there are other ways to be probably, without ads. I'm optimistic we, as a society, will find those ways.
- thedelanyo 1y ago
  I think ads are great, but the tactics (tracking) around them aren't really in the good course.
rudedogg 1y ago
> Ads in ChatGPT was the most obvious outcome from day 1 Agreed. Tech companies always do this. With Ads, we’re back into speculation territory, and the “how do we pay for and justify all this shit?” can gets kicked down the road. Can’t we actually solve problems in the real world instead? Wouldn’t people be willing to pay if AI makes them more productive? Why do we need an ad-supported business model when the product is only $20/mo?
- bonoboTP 1y ago
  > Wouldn’t people be willing to pay if AI makes them more productive? Why do we need an ad-supported business model when the product is only $20/mo? This was always a fake reasoning (ads are there because people want everything for free!), but then paid HBO started ads, your purchased smart TVs started ads, cars that you bought with money started ads... ([some business model] + ads) will simply always generate more profit than [some business model] (at least that's how they think). Even if you already pay, if they also shove some ads in your eyes, they can make even more money. Corporations don't work the way humans do. There is no "enough". The task of the CEO is to grow the company, make more profit each quarter and is responsible to the shareholders. It's not like, ok, now we can pay all our bills, we don't need more revenue. You always need maximum possible revenue.
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ranger_danger 1y ago
This is the first time I've ever heard anyone even mention it, and I never thought about that possibility myself either.
innagadadavida 1y ago
Ads haven't made it yet, they are charging money for the purchase made: > Merchants pay a small fee on completed purchases, but the service is free for users, doesn’t affect their prices, and doesn’t influence ChatGPT’s product results.
- hchdifnfbgbf 1y ago
  Yes, so they’re being incentivized to highlight products which they get a cut of, and more strongly to highlight more expensive products. This is called affiliate marketing and it’s toxic.

ElijahLynn 1y ago

there are other ways to be probably, without ads. I'm optimistic we, as a society, will find those ways.

thedelanyo 1y ago
I think ads are great, but the tactics (tracking) around them aren't really in the good course.

rudedogg 1y ago

> Ads in ChatGPT was the most obvious outcome from day 1 Agreed. Tech companies always do this. With Ads, we’re back into speculation territory, and the “how do we pay for and justify all this shit?” can gets kicked down the road. Can’t we actually solve problems in the real world instead? Wouldn’t people be willing to pay if AI makes them more productive? Why do we need an ad-supported business model when the product is only $20/mo?

bonoboTP 1y ago
> Wouldn’t people be willing to pay if AI makes them more productive? Why do we need an ad-supported business model when the product is only $20/mo? This was always a fake reasoning (ads are there because people want everything for free!), but then paid HBO started ads, your purchased smart TVs started ads, cars that you bought with money started ads... ([some business model] + ads) will simply always generate more profit than [some business model] (at least that's how they think). Even if you already pay, if they also shove some ads in your eyes, they can make even more money. Corporations don't work the way humans do. There is no "enough". The task of the CEO is to grow the company, make more profit each quarter and is responsible to the shareholders. It's not like, ok, now we can pay all our bills, we don't need more revenue. You always need maximum possible revenue.

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ranger_danger 1y ago

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone even mention it, and I never thought about that possibility myself either.

innagadadavida 1y ago

Ads haven't made it yet, they are charging money for the purchase made: > Merchants pay a small fee on completed purchases, but the service is free for users, doesn’t affect their prices, and doesn’t influence ChatGPT’s product results.

hchdifnfbgbf 1y ago
Yes, so they’re being incentivized to highlight products which they get a cut of, and more strongly to highlight more expensive products. This is called affiliate marketing and it’s toxic.