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Because many people don't think that murder is a bad thing. If it's done in the name of one's God, or to clear away an existing culture or people to make way fo

Because many people don't think that murder is a bad thing. If it's done in the name of one's God, or to clear away an existing culture or people to make way for one who has been taught to believe they are superior to others, special, or deserving in some way. People like to act like this has never happened before, but the fact is it happens all the time throughout history. We like to think we are evolved past that, but we are not and unlikely to ever be at this point. The true nature of man is destructive, selfish, xenophobic and cruel. After Israel is done with Gaza, we'll create some holiday that has children dressing up as Palestinians for first grade theater. Palestinians will become like Native Americans: scarce and marginalized. Because of the religious, ethnic and racial homogeneity of the Israeli people, its likely to be far worse than what settlers did to the Native population at the time. Most people just don't care. If more did, it wouldn't be happening in the first place. Or at least those who are in power don't care and see human life as disposable.

tguvot 1y ago
there are 15m palestinians. 20% of Israeli population (~2m) are palestinians. how do you factor this into "religious, ethnic and racial homogeneity of the Israeli".
- zhengiszen 1y ago
  Apartheid definition. Palestinians don't have the same rights even if they're native to the land.
  - tguvot 1y ago
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    - burnt-resistor 1y ago
      > all palestinians that are israeli citizens have exactly same rights under law. No, this is totally false. There have been many discriminatory laws passed against non-Jews and Arabs in the past couple of years. And then there's the yellow vs. green vehicle number plate thing. https://www.ft.com/content/3d57cf7c-a097-4e86-8f39-0f7720508123 https://www.ft.com/content/3d57cf7c-a097-4e86-8f39-0f7720508...
      - tguvot 1y ago
        the only law that somehow discriminates arabs it's that if you marry somebody from west bank/gaza, you can't bring him to israel. also it's renewed yearly, not even sure if it still active or expired. green license plates are for west bank/gaza. all israeli citizens, including 2m arabs and ~700k "other" have yellow plates
RadiozRadioz 1y ago
No that's not what I meant. I'm not talking about the actual conflict or how it works. That's political discussion. My comment was specifically about the action of him posting the photo from a public relations perspective. There is a controversial world event. Regardless of which side you're on, everybody agrees that there are many people with strong opposing views. As a representative of a company, he should have stayed away from the topic as a whole, because getting involved with it is a PR nightmare with essentially zero upside.
- tormeh 1y ago
  Not everyone puts the bottom line first, even among CEOs. In fact it's incredibly normal not to.
  - sporkxrocket 1y ago
    So what would you say the Vercel CEO is putting first here since this is clearly causing massive brand damage.
    - tormeh 1y ago
      Well, presumably he's a massive fan of Israel's current administration and thinks everyone who disagrees can stop being customers and also pound sand. Either that or he's completely lost the plot.
  - bigskydog 1y ago
    LOL, unless that guy/the group like that guy can bring much more money than the customers/people hate it.
    - omnimus 1y ago
      It might very well be the case. Vercel might have increasingly tougher time reselling AWS to small customers. So chance to resell AWS AI to countries might be great new market.
nevergonna11 1y ago
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burnt-resistor 1y ago
Billionaires and ethnonationalist supremacists share a belief that they are "special" and entitled to do whatever they want because they are "better" and "more deserving". Doesn't matter the time period or the faction: European colonial invaders/separatists, Nazis, or Likud because almost every ideology based on supremacy tends to lead to war, repression, suffering, and/or mass death.

tguvot 1y ago

there are 15m palestinians. 20% of Israeli population (~2m) are palestinians. how do you factor this into "religious, ethnic and racial homogeneity of the Israeli".

zhengiszen 1y ago
Apartheid definition. Palestinians don't have the same rights even if they're native to the land.
- tguvot 1y ago
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  - burnt-resistor 1y ago
    > all palestinians that are israeli citizens have exactly same rights under law. No, this is totally false. There have been many discriminatory laws passed against non-Jews and Arabs in the past couple of years. And then there's the yellow vs. green vehicle number plate thing. https://www.ft.com/content/3d57cf7c-a097-4e86-8f39-0f7720508123 https://www.ft.com/content/3d57cf7c-a097-4e86-8f39-0f7720508...
    - tguvot 1y ago
      the only law that somehow discriminates arabs it's that if you marry somebody from west bank/gaza, you can't bring him to israel. also it's renewed yearly, not even sure if it still active or expired. green license plates are for west bank/gaza. all israeli citizens, including 2m arabs and ~700k "other" have yellow plates

RadiozRadioz 1y ago

No that's not what I meant. I'm not talking about the actual conflict or how it works. That's political discussion. My comment was specifically about the action of him posting the photo from a public relations perspective. There is a controversial world event. Regardless of which side you're on, everybody agrees that there are many people with strong opposing views. As a representative of a company, he should have stayed away from the topic as a whole, because getting involved with it is a PR nightmare with essentially zero upside.

tormeh 1y ago
Not everyone puts the bottom line first, even among CEOs. In fact it's incredibly normal not to.
- sporkxrocket 1y ago
  So what would you say the Vercel CEO is putting first here since this is clearly causing massive brand damage.
  - tormeh 1y ago
    Well, presumably he's a massive fan of Israel's current administration and thinks everyone who disagrees can stop being customers and also pound sand. Either that or he's completely lost the plot.
- bigskydog 1y ago
  LOL, unless that guy/the group like that guy can bring much more money than the customers/people hate it.
  - omnimus 1y ago
    It might very well be the case. Vercel might have increasingly tougher time reselling AWS to small customers. So chance to resell AWS AI to countries might be great new market.

nevergonna11 1y ago

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burnt-resistor 1y ago

Billionaires and ethnonationalist supremacists share a belief that they are "special" and entitled to do whatever they want because they are "better" and "more deserving". Doesn't matter the time period or the faction: European colonial invaders/separatists, Nazis, or Likud because almost every ideology based on supremacy tends to lead to war, repression, suffering, and/or mass death.