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How Ruby Went Off the Rails

37 points by rmason 1y ago

lawlessone 1y ago
Seems they still think they're just not communicating their theft correctly..
perihelions 1y ago
https://archive.is/G1Alk https://archive.is/G1Alk
ChrisArchitect 1y ago
Plenty of discussions about this: Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler and RubyGems takeover https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45348390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45348390 Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45299170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45299170 A board member's perspective of the RubyGems controversy https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45325792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45325792 I'm leaving Ruby Central https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45352432 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45352432 Bundler Belongs to the Ruby Community https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45371061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45371061 Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45405221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45405221
- perihelions 1y ago
  I believe this is the first version that's long-form journalism. (I'm not a fan of the HN submissions which are short, anecdotal blogposts, that leave you questing for the rest of the story across the internet. I think all those previous ones were of that format. Discussions that start in medias res and assume you've been following every new development daily from the beginning).
  - ChrisArchitect 1y ago
    Understood. This is collecting the various developments. However, this isn't some isolated story that happened a week ago and nobody knows what's happened in the days since. As evidenced by the many discussion comments many have been following the developments/commentaries. Each of those posts were appearing as the story developed and/or referred to the initial overarching incident. Some even reference the other posts as part of the development. My thing of course when we get to this 'long-form' coverage is must we then repeat all of the prior discussions? Perhaps, but there's the prior discussion links anyways.
dismalaf 1y ago
Ruby's fine. They survived a group of activists trying to cancel Matz a few years ago as well. Btw, on X, Matz is re-posting DHH's comments on CoCs and Japanese articles that are pro-DHH. American activists != Ruby community.
- mostlysimilar 1y ago
  > activists trying to cancel Matz a few years ago as well. I'm not familiar with this event, do you have any links? Cursory internet search didn't reveal anything.
  - dismalaf 1y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28744056 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28744056 This is some info about the event. There was lots of people on Twitter angry about it. In the end it's mostly been forgotten by non-Rubyists, but Matz, DHH and others have brought it up in part due to recent events.

37 points by rmason 1y ago

lawlessone 1y ago

Seems they still think they're just not communicating their theft correctly..

perihelions 1y ago

https://archive.is/G1Alk https://archive.is/G1Alk

ChrisArchitect 1y ago

Plenty of discussions about this: Shopify, pulling strings at Ruby Central, forces Bundler and RubyGems takeover https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45348390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45348390 Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45299170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45299170 A board member's perspective of the RubyGems controversy https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45325792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45325792 I'm leaving Ruby Central https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45352432 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45352432 Bundler Belongs to the Ruby Community https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45371061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45371061 Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45405221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45405221

perihelions 1y ago
I believe this is the first version that's long-form journalism. (I'm not a fan of the HN submissions which are short, anecdotal blogposts, that leave you questing for the rest of the story across the internet. I think all those previous ones were of that format. Discussions that start in medias res and assume you've been following every new development daily from the beginning).
- ChrisArchitect 1y ago
  Understood. This is collecting the various developments. However, this isn't some isolated story that happened a week ago and nobody knows what's happened in the days since. As evidenced by the many discussion comments many have been following the developments/commentaries. Each of those posts were appearing as the story developed and/or referred to the initial overarching incident. Some even reference the other posts as part of the development. My thing of course when we get to this 'long-form' coverage is must we then repeat all of the prior discussions? Perhaps, but there's the prior discussion links anyways.

dismalaf 1y ago

Ruby's fine. They survived a group of activists trying to cancel Matz a few years ago as well. Btw, on X, Matz is re-posting DHH's comments on CoCs and Japanese articles that are pro-DHH. American activists != Ruby community.

mostlysimilar 1y ago
> activists trying to cancel Matz a few years ago as well. I'm not familiar with this event, do you have any links? Cursory internet search didn't reveal anything.
- dismalaf 1y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28744056 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28744056 This is some info about the event. There was lots of people on Twitter angry about it. In the end it's mostly been forgotten by non-Rubyists, but Matz, DHH and others have brought it up in part due to recent events.