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This is why eventually, the AI with the fewest guardrails will win. Grok is currently the most unguarded of the frontier models, but it could still use some wor

This is why eventually, the AI with the fewest guardrails will win. Grok is currently the most unguarded of the frontier models, but it could still use some work on unbiased responses.

beefnugs 1y ago
Still has to be a local model too. Arbitrary government censorship on top of arbitrary corporate censorship is a hell no for me forever into the future
- drak0n1c 1y ago
  For what you're looking for, VeniceAI is focused entirely on privacy and making their models uncensored. Even if it's not local. They IP block censorious jurisdictions like UK, rather than comply.
  - jjordan 1y ago
    VeniceAI is great, and my go-to for running open source models. Sadly they appear to have given up providing leading coding models, making it of limited use to me.
sixothree 1y ago
I can't imagine myself sharing my code or workspace documents with X. Nevermind the the moral implications of just using their products.
- AlecSchueler 1y ago
  Glad to see someone saying this, it's frightening how quickly all is forgiven and forgotten.
int_19h 1y ago
Gemini is surprisingly unguarded as well, especially when running in API mode. It puts on the air if you do a quick smoke test like "tell me how to rob a bank". But give it a Bond supervillain prompt, and it will tell you, gleefully at that. Qwen also tends to be like that. OTOH Anthropic and OpenAI seem to be in some kind of competition to make their models refuse as much as possible.
- baq 1y ago
  My prediction is alignment is an unsolvable problem, but OTOH if they don’t even try, the second order effects will be catastrophic.
khafra 1y ago
If you tell DeepSeek you're going to jump off a cliff, DeepSeek will tell you to go for it*; but I don't think it's going to beat Anthropic or OpenAI. * https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iGF7YcnQkEbwvYLPA/ai-induced-psychosis-a-shallow-investigation https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iGF7YcnQkEbwvYLPA/ai-induced...
- AlecSchueler 1y ago
  Try asking about Chinese history/politic and you won't get far.
AlecSchueler 1y ago
Doesn't it have the opposite issue where it will actively steer you towards alt right topics like white genocide?

This is why eventually, the AI with the fewest guardrails will win. Grok is currently the most unguarded of the frontier models, but it could still use some work on unbiased responses.

beefnugs 1y ago

Still has to be a local model too. Arbitrary government censorship on top of arbitrary corporate censorship is a hell no for me forever into the future

drak0n1c 1y ago
For what you're looking for, VeniceAI is focused entirely on privacy and making their models uncensored. Even if it's not local. They IP block censorious jurisdictions like UK, rather than comply.
- jjordan 1y ago
  VeniceAI is great, and my go-to for running open source models. Sadly they appear to have given up providing leading coding models, making it of limited use to me.

sixothree 1y ago

I can't imagine myself sharing my code or workspace documents with X. Nevermind the the moral implications of just using their products.

AlecSchueler 1y ago
Glad to see someone saying this, it's frightening how quickly all is forgiven and forgotten.

int_19h 1y ago

Gemini is surprisingly unguarded as well, especially when running in API mode. It puts on the air if you do a quick smoke test like "tell me how to rob a bank". But give it a Bond supervillain prompt, and it will tell you, gleefully at that. Qwen also tends to be like that. OTOH Anthropic and OpenAI seem to be in some kind of competition to make their models refuse as much as possible.

baq 1y ago
My prediction is alignment is an unsolvable problem, but OTOH if they don’t even try, the second order effects will be catastrophic.

khafra 1y ago

If you tell DeepSeek you're going to jump off a cliff, DeepSeek will tell you to go for it*; but I don't think it's going to beat Anthropic or OpenAI. * https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iGF7YcnQkEbwvYLPA/ai-induced-psychosis-a-shallow-investigation https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iGF7YcnQkEbwvYLPA/ai-induced...

AlecSchueler 1y ago
Try asking about Chinese history/politic and you won't get far.

AlecSchueler 1y ago

Doesn't it have the opposite issue where it will actively steer you towards alt right topics like white genocide?