> I'm still hopeful for matrix to become easier to deploy and easier to use, as it has real potential. I mean, I'm admittedly biased here, but the "easy to dep

> I'm still hopeful for matrix to become easier to deploy and easier to use, as it has real potential. I mean, I'm admittedly biased here, but the "easy to deploy, $10 shared host IM" already exists and is XMPP. Matrix is doomed to be inefficient, and that's baked at the protocol level. It won't ever get easy and cheap to deploy and run, judging from the recent year's trajectory, with more and more components being added to the mix. > somebody get matrix to run via one click with softalicious / fantistico like abilities please! https://www.process-one.net/download/ejabberd/ https://www.process-one.net/download/ejabberd/ ← Docker, RPM, DEB, binary, pick your poison. It really doesn't have to be that hard. > I also think Matrix would be better as a no federated self hosted install and connect some sort of bridge on a different server if someone wants to connect the federated stuff You just described federation. Anyhow, do you know what's the world's largest non-federated ejabberd instance? It's WhatsApp. Yes, that WhatsApp: https://www.process-one.net/blog/whatsapp-facebook-erlang-and-realtime-messaging-it-all-started-with-ejabberd/ https://www.process-one.net/blog/whatsapp-facebook-erlang-an... Another software delivering a slack-lite experience geared towards corporations is prose: https://prose.org/ https://prose.org/ it's also XMPP, their client can be used with ejabberd but they have an easy-deployment bundle that ships Prosody instead (yeah, unlike the Matrix ecosystem, XMPP has multiple completely viable and compatible implementations, ejabberd and prosody being only the two most popular).