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sofixa 1y ago
The USA isn't the only country in the "western world", please stop equating the two. Even for Britain, France, Germany, the countries with the biggest far right/reactionary political groups, where there are legitimate chances for them to end up in power, none of them are religious. Or even that socially reactionary for that matter.
- hollerith 1y ago
  Also, even the US is not in danger of becoming a theocracy.
  - KerrAvon 1y ago
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    - prewett 1y ago
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    - wat10000 1y ago
      Never mind third in line, the dude who is currently President just put out a memorandum declaring "anti-Christianity" to be on the same level as "support for the overthrow of the United States Government."
    - tomhow 1y ago
      When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - sofixa 1y ago
    I really wouldn't go this far, there is _way_ too much religion in US politics for proper separation of church and state. When elected politicians regularly quote religious documents in their reasoning for making decisions, agreeing and disagreeing with others, etc. you can't claim a theocracy isn't on the cards.
    - hollerith 1y ago
      Maybe we have different definitions of theocracy. According to your definition, has there been a time in the past when the US was a theocracy?
      - sofixa 1y ago
        No, it has not. But you cannot deny that religion being a visible, daily, part of politics, and being very often quoted as justification for political, and even worse, judicial decisions, is closer to a theocracy than it is to separation of church and state.
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- adornKey 1y ago
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      - tomhow 1y ago
        You can't comment like this on Hacker News, no matter what you're replying to. Phrases like "You've bought into multiple cults" and "I think you're pretty lost. Study some history. Seek help!" are never acceptable on HN, no matter the context. And, really, are we still arguing about masks in 2025? Nobody is changing their mind about it now. Please just let it go. Discussion like this is not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        adornKey 1y ago
        Calling cargo cultists to get back to data and science is absolutely something for Hackers.. This is the only thing that might help them. - and they need help - If nobody can find keywords about those subjects to get started researching, they'll end up like the women in Iran. In Iran it was more difficult to argue against some vague will of god. But the modern western cargo cults go openly against hard data. So it's a lot easier - at least for people with a bit of skill in math in physics.
    - tomhow 1y ago
      Please don't engage in flamewar about the relative merits of nations or regions (or COVID masks in 2025) on HN. It's not what HN is for and it destroys what it is for. This article is about the acquisition of a computer games company. The discussion ended up in a completely irrelevant and toxic place. Please remind yourself of the guidelines and make an effort to heed them in future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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The USA isn't the only country in the "western world", please stop equating the two. Even for Britain, France, Germany, the countries with the biggest far right/reactionary political groups, where there are legitimate chances for them to end up in power, none of them are religious. Or even that socially reactionary for that matter.

hollerith 1y ago
Also, even the US is not in danger of becoming a theocracy.
- KerrAvon 1y ago
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  - prewett 1y ago
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  - wat10000 1y ago
    Never mind third in line, the dude who is currently President just put out a memorandum declaring "anti-Christianity" to be on the same level as "support for the overthrow of the United States Government."
  - tomhow 1y ago
    When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- sofixa 1y ago
  I really wouldn't go this far, there is _way_ too much religion in US politics for proper separation of church and state. When elected politicians regularly quote religious documents in their reasoning for making decisions, agreeing and disagreeing with others, etc. you can't claim a theocracy isn't on the cards.
  - hollerith 1y ago
    Maybe we have different definitions of theocracy. According to your definition, has there been a time in the past when the US was a theocracy?
    - sofixa 1y ago
      No, it has not. But you cannot deny that religion being a visible, daily, part of politics, and being very often quoted as justification for political, and even worse, judicial decisions, is closer to a theocracy than it is to separation of church and state.
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adornKey 1y ago
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- sofixa 1y ago
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    - tomhow 1y ago
      You can't comment like this on Hacker News, no matter what you're replying to. Phrases like "You've bought into multiple cults" and "I think you're pretty lost. Study some history. Seek help!" are never acceptable on HN, no matter the context. And, really, are we still arguing about masks in 2025? Nobody is changing their mind about it now. Please just let it go. Discussion like this is not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - adornKey 1y ago
        Calling cargo cultists to get back to data and science is absolutely something for Hackers.. This is the only thing that might help them. - and they need help - If nobody can find keywords about those subjects to get started researching, they'll end up like the women in Iran. In Iran it was more difficult to argue against some vague will of god. But the modern western cargo cults go openly against hard data. So it's a lot easier - at least for people with a bit of skill in math in physics.
  - tomhow 1y ago
    Please don't engage in flamewar about the relative merits of nations or regions (or COVID masks in 2025) on HN. It's not what HN is for and it destroys what it is for. This article is about the acquisition of a computer games company. The discussion ended up in a completely irrelevant and toxic place. Please remind yourself of the guidelines and make an effort to heed them in future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html