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Basic human decency. Just as the author says: “Publishing someone’s photo online, without their consent, without another strong justification, just because the
by callc 1y ago
Basic human decency.
Just as the author says: “Publishing someone’s photo online, without their consent, without another strong justification, just because they happen to be in view of one’s camera lens, feels wrong to me.”
It doesn’t fall to the legal level, but a social rules level.
People who obnoxiously recording people in public, even if 100% legal, and disregard the wishes and conform of others around them deserve social consequences.
Some things should only exist at the social norms level. IMO it would be hunky dory if societies considered what “privacy in public” looks like in the modern age, and came to the conclusions like “no dragnets pls”.
- everdrive 1y ago>Basic human decency. You've got a very large, diverse population without a strong social identity and ever-fraying trust. So you won't consistently get basic human decency any longer. That's something which is extended to the in-group with which you have real social ties and obligations. Most people don't have this any longer.
- legacynl 1y agolet's not make grand conclusions from singular observations, especially if they align with your own opinions. That's a recipe for deluding yourself. Human decency still exists as it has always done. But perhaps not in a form that we all agree on.
- presbyterian 1y agoEven if what you're saying is true, and I'm skeptical that it is, why is the solution to give up entirely on trying to preserve or promote it?
- ilikecakeandpie 1y agoI agree. I understand that there's no expectation of privacy in a public area and this is amplified by people having cameras/video recording capabilities in their hands than ever before. I think it's different though when it's at a private event though, like a birthday party, funeral, etc and folks shouldn't default to livestreaming
- lurk2 1y ago> So you won't consistently get basic human decency any longer. That's something which is extended to the in-group with which you have real social ties and obligations. This is nonsense. People started taking photos of crowds almost as soon as the camera was invented.
- pixl97 1y ago>Basic human decency. If this existed we'd have a lot less problems in this world.
- worik 1y agoIt exists Life would be absolutely impossible without it The debate is about its extent
- crazygringo 1y agoI have no problem with that, but there are a lot of commenters here arguing that it should be enforced at a legal level, rather than a social rules level. For a forum that tends to trend libertarian, I'm genuinely surprised by the level of enthusiasm for using the government to police the photos people take and share of people in public spaces.
- seanw444 1y ago> For a forum that tends to trend libertarian Seriously? This one? This place is Reddit with more words, in my ever-degrading experience.
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- jMyles 1y ago> Basic human decency. While I think we all agree that this is crucially important, for many of us the affront to decency is not the capture of photons that have previously bounced off someone's skin, but the very idea that that person has a claim to those photons in perpetuity. I think it's indecent to suggest that someone needs to avert their gaze (or in this case, their CMOS sensor) because I happen to be in the area.
- drewbeck 1y agoThe post here makes it explicit that that the issue is with posting that video, not capturing it.
- HankStallone 1y agoRight. If you had a swimsuit malfunction on the beach in 1995, a few people got an eyeful of your unmentionables before you could grab a towel, someone might whistle or laugh, you'd blush, and then the world would move on and you'd forget about it. If the same thing happens in 2025, there's a decent chance your unmentionables will end up posted online for anyone to ogle in perpetuity. If you find out about it, it could really eat at you. I don't have a solution to it, or even know if there should be one. But I think it's undeniable that it's causing a fundamental shift in what "private" and "public" mean, in people's minds if not legally. We used to be more private in public than we are now.
- scotty79 1y agoWho cares, your body will degrade and ultimately decompose in few short decades. If people aren't decent enough to wait till you are dead and bother you over the footage of you they've seen, you should go after them, not the person who recorded the footage. They are the ones who cause you inconvenience.
- ilikecakeandpie 1y agoYoung girls are killing themselves every day over something you're saying "who cares" about