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Don't get hung up on "years". I didn't mean that I wish all feature advance had stopped years ago, I meant that for several years now I have been thinking about

Don't get hung up on "years". I didn't mean that I wish all feature advance had stopped years ago, I meant that for several years now I have been thinking about perfecting one thing before moving on to the next. Every company is different, every product is different, every user is different. Attempting to speak in absolutes like you are simply doesn't work. As for your suggestion I forgoe a decade of advance in phones... uhh no. A moderately buggy phone from 2012 is still a thousand times better than your puritan "calls and texts only" ideal phone. The thing is, it could be much better with a little attention to detail.

prof_hobart 14y ago
I spoke in absolutes because I was replying to the absolute of "I've been thinking for some years now, I wish everyone would stop implementing features and perfect the ones that are already there.". If that's not what you meant, and instead you were trying to say "I've been thinking for some years now, that a little bit more time was spent on fixing existing features rather than always focusing on new features", then I'd probably agree. Although I would say that most companies are, in reality, already doing this and their doing it to the level that they believe the market is really prepared to pay for. > A moderately buggy phone from 2012 is still a thousand times better than your puritan "calls and texts only" ideal phone. Indeed it is - but that is far from the message you seemed to be saying in your first comment.
- tomflack 14y ago
  Your insistence on saying this goes one way or the other without being able to imagine a million shades of grey means this conversation is going nowhere.
  - prof_hobart 14y ago
    Hmm. Despite me pointing out that I was simply replying to your black and white statement ("I wish everyone would stop implementing features and perfect the ones that are already there"), and pointing out that I would agree with a far more nuanced position, you're continuing to pretend that that I'm the one who was trying to make it black and white. I'm guessing from this that you're not actually massively interested in having an adult discussion on the fact that despite continual complaints from consumers about too much complexity, not enough focus on quality etc, the actual purchasing behaviour of those same consumers is driving companies to focus far more on new features than on perfecting their existing ones.

prof_hobart 14y ago

I spoke in absolutes because I was replying to the absolute of "I've been thinking for some years now, I wish everyone would stop implementing features and perfect the ones that are already there.". If that's not what you meant, and instead you were trying to say "I've been thinking for some years now, that a little bit more time was spent on fixing existing features rather than always focusing on new features", then I'd probably agree. Although I would say that most companies are, in reality, already doing this and their doing it to the level that they believe the market is really prepared to pay for. > A moderately buggy phone from 2012 is still a thousand times better than your puritan "calls and texts only" ideal phone. Indeed it is - but that is far from the message you seemed to be saying in your first comment.

tomflack 14y ago
Your insistence on saying this goes one way or the other without being able to imagine a million shades of grey means this conversation is going nowhere.
- prof_hobart 14y ago
  Hmm. Despite me pointing out that I was simply replying to your black and white statement ("I wish everyone would stop implementing features and perfect the ones that are already there"), and pointing out that I would agree with a far more nuanced position, you're continuing to pretend that that I'm the one who was trying to make it black and white. I'm guessing from this that you're not actually massively interested in having an adult discussion on the fact that despite continual complaints from consumers about too much complexity, not enough focus on quality etc, the actual purchasing behaviour of those same consumers is driving companies to focus far more on new features than on perfecting their existing ones.