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Extremely tight results and the majority of cantons voted against it. I still believe it's the way forward.

by folli 1y ago

testdelacc1 1y ago
Land doesn’t vote though. People do.
- metalman 1y ago
  and in Swirzerland a large percentage of the voters have a required by law machine gun or have kept the required machine gun, for the required time, so the "e-id" will presumably be just another part of generaly orderly and significantly bizarre, swissness very unlike whatever just got thrown out in merry old
- kgwgk 1y ago
  Not in this case, but “the decision to amend the constitution or join a supranational community requires a so-called double majority”.
spacebanana7 1y ago
> I still believe it's the way forward Why? I mean this sincerely, are you not concerned about the dystopian social credit scoring potential of these systems
- QQ00 1y ago
  the general population are dumb, you are expecting too much from them to be honest. the forward March toward dystopian tomorrow will never stop, we will lament the stupidity of the public who made this possible in our small corners on the internet.
  - bootsmann 1y ago
    I think it generally not wise to project the political conflicts and fault lines of one's own country on to other countries which exist in very different contexts.
    - QQ00 1y ago
      we started to see this kind of disturbing dystopian legislations in Australia, European countries, uk and next is the United States. I don't think it's limited to one country.
  - pheggs 1y ago
    I voted no in this, but I was on the fence. In my experience people are smarter than they get credit for and the decisions made in these votes are often quite good. There was more to consider than privacy, it's also about the fact that most countries will implement something like this as it is pushed by the UN. So it might become required for some things in the future. Then we currently don't have a whole lot of ways to distinguish AI from people anymore, which will only get worse. Propaganda bots are real and we don't know how that will evolve. It will make a lot of the processes easier as you can do them from home, which is especially useful for disabled people that can not easily appear physically. Plus, it's more or less optional to have one for now. And yet, I am still kinda disappointed it passed. We will see how it evolves.

Extremely tight results and the majority of cantons voted against it. I still believe it's the way forward.

by folli 1y ago

Extremely tight results and the majority of cantons voted against it. I still believe it's the way forward.

testdelacc1 1y ago

Land doesn’t vote though. People do.

metalman 1y ago
and in Swirzerland a large percentage of the voters have a required by law machine gun or have kept the required machine gun, for the required time, so the "e-id" will presumably be just another part of generaly orderly and significantly bizarre, swissness very unlike whatever just got thrown out in merry old
kgwgk 1y ago
Not in this case, but “the decision to amend the constitution or join a supranational community requires a so-called double majority”.

spacebanana7 1y ago

> I still believe it's the way forward Why? I mean this sincerely, are you not concerned about the dystopian social credit scoring potential of these systems

QQ00 1y ago
the general population are dumb, you are expecting too much from them to be honest. the forward March toward dystopian tomorrow will never stop, we will lament the stupidity of the public who made this possible in our small corners on the internet.
- bootsmann 1y ago
  I think it generally not wise to project the political conflicts and fault lines of one's own country on to other countries which exist in very different contexts.
  - QQ00 1y ago
    we started to see this kind of disturbing dystopian legislations in Australia, European countries, uk and next is the United States. I don't think it's limited to one country.
- pheggs 1y ago
  I voted no in this, but I was on the fence. In my experience people are smarter than they get credit for and the decisions made in these votes are often quite good. There was more to consider than privacy, it's also about the fact that most countries will implement something like this as it is pushed by the UN. So it might become required for some things in the future. Then we currently don't have a whole lot of ways to distinguish AI from people anymore, which will only get worse. Propaganda bots are real and we don't know how that will evolve. It will make a lot of the processes easier as you can do them from home, which is especially useful for disabled people that can not easily appear physically. Plus, it's more or less optional to have one for now. And yet, I am still kinda disappointed it passed. We will see how it evolves.