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Is anyone in an elected or influential position talking about invading Russia? If not, it's not manufacturing consent. It's just sparkling self-defense. Putin

Is anyone in an elected or influential position talking about invading Russia? If not, it's not manufacturing consent. It's just sparkling self-defense. Putin's Russia has shown herself to be incredibly antagonistic against the western world. See {polonium poisoning Litvinenko, defenestration (multiple), Syrian actions, Ukraine invasion, etc} Military resources are expensive and inefficient, so it takes some degree of political capital to develop and maintain them. I'd so much rather see that capital (human and otherwise) go into research and art and human flourishing, but that's not the world we live in. ) Driving refugees into liberal western democracies is a deliberate outcome of this strategy.

AlecSchueler 1y ago
> Is anyone in an elected or influential position talking about invading Russia? > If not, it's not manufacturing consent. Is it not? Maybe we have a different understanding of what manufacturing consent means. For me the consent could be manufactured long before the question is raised. I'm not sure why it needs to be called for immediately, why do you believe so? > Putin's Russia has shown herself to be incredibly antagonistic against the western world. Yes it has, consistently, but I feel a significant seachange in the landscape of various media channels, both mainstream media and social media, as well as in the rhetoric of politicians. And yes, they have been talking about increased cooperation, taking heavier action against stray drones etc. And it all seems to have happened in the past 2 months, like a sudden spike.
Animats 1y ago
> Is anyone in an elected or influential position talking about invading Russia? I hope not. That's never worked. Napoleon, Hitler, and the Wagner Group's comic-opera invasion all failed. The Economist seems to view this as the end of a happy era for Europe, an era when the EU could focus on making the EU work well and provide a good life for its people, without worrying too much about external problems. They're not wrong. Putin's stated goal is to re-establish a Russian empire, out to the boundaries of the 19th century Russian Empire.[1] He's been saying things like this for years now: "Peter the Great waged the Great Northern War for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them, he did not take anything from them, he returned [them (to Russia)]. Apparently, it also fell to us to return [what is Russia’s] and strengthen [the country]. And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire

AlecSchueler 1y ago

> Is anyone in an elected or influential position talking about invading Russia? > If not, it's not manufacturing consent. Is it not? Maybe we have a different understanding of what manufacturing consent means. For me the consent could be manufactured long before the question is raised. I'm not sure why it needs to be called for immediately, why do you believe so? > Putin's Russia has shown herself to be incredibly antagonistic against the western world. Yes it has, consistently, but I feel a significant seachange in the landscape of various media channels, both mainstream media and social media, as well as in the rhetoric of politicians. And yes, they have been talking about increased cooperation, taking heavier action against stray drones etc. And it all seems to have happened in the past 2 months, like a sudden spike.

Animats 1y ago

> Is anyone in an elected or influential position talking about invading Russia? I hope not. That's never worked. Napoleon, Hitler, and the Wagner Group's comic-opera invasion all failed. The Economist seems to view this as the end of a happy era for Europe, an era when the EU could focus on making the EU work well and provide a good life for its people, without worrying too much about external problems. They're not wrong. Putin's stated goal is to re-establish a Russian empire, out to the boundaries of the 19th century Russian Empire.[1] He's been saying things like this for years now: "Peter the Great waged the Great Northern War for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them, he did not take anything from them, he returned [them (to Russia)]. Apparently, it also fell to us to return [what is Russia’s] and strengthen [the country]. And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire