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Do people seriously code on their phone without any keyboards? Are IDEs in demand for phones? (It is not intended to be an insult of any sort. It is a serious
by johnisgood 1y ago
Do people seriously code on their phone without any keyboards? Are IDEs in demand for phones?
(It is not intended to be an insult of any sort. It is a serious question. I do not know anyone who does this and I cannot imagine myself being productive at all. I want to compare WPMs on a keyboard vs. on a phone as well.)
- resonious 1y agoI seriously code on my phone with a keyboard. I do so without as well, but in that case I'm usually relying heavily on a cli ai agent.
- pjmlp 1y agoOn good modern tablets you can nicely use the pen, and is almost as I used to do offline programming on paper netbooks, with the difference, now I can actually execute them, instead of coming home and type everything into the PC.
- johnisgood 1y agoInteresting. I cannot imagine myself being any productive. I typically just write down my thoughts and ideas on my phone when I am not nearby my PC.
- pjmlp 1y agoI usually have fun on the go between C# Shell, Pydroid 3 and ShaderBox.
- GZGavinZhao 1y agoI could be wrong, but I recall in many developing countries phones there are many teenagers who code on their phone because laptops (even tablets) are prohibitively costly. They might be wiring their phones up to some cheap keyboards, which is technically possible but I don't know if they're doing that. A friend of mine from a SEA country learned/did all of his coding on a 10-inch Android tablet using the touch-screen keyboard since age 11 until his parents bought him a proper laptop as a gift for going to college. Edit: for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45286044 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45286044, there are other cases that I've definitely seen on GitHub but I can't find them at this moment.
- johnisgood 1y agoHmm, I see. Of course if I had no choice like those people, I would rather pick "coding uncomfortably on a phone" over "not coding at all".
- jlg23 1y ago> I could be wrong, but I recall in many developing countries phones there are many teenagers who code on their phone because laptops (even tablets) are prohibitively costly. Yes, I see that a lot here in the far south of Morocco. > They might be wiring their phones up to some cheap keyboards, which is technically possible but I don't know if they're doing that. They do. Adapters are about $2.
- giancarlostoro 1y agoWhy do that when bluetooth keyboards are cheap these days too? For like $11 you can get a bluetooth keyboard, which would most likely just work... I could also see some of them using a cheap tablet for the larger screen, but I've also run into teens who use their phones exclusively.
- VoidWhisperer 1y agoIt may be $11 here in the US, but it might be harder to get and more costly in a developing nation. In which case, if it is easier to get that $2 adapter and an e-waste keyboard, that likely makes sense for them
- giancarlostoro 1y agoSure, I don't discount that, I guess my real point was that bluetooth might still be viable depending on country.
- oharapj 1y agoPretty sure the people who have to choose between eating and a $2 adapter and not eating and a Bluetooth keyboard have a better understanding of the trade offs and what’s viable than you do. Not sure what real point you’re trying to make here
- sdeframond 1y agoI sometimes plug my phone to a screen with a keyboard. It is not as good as a "real" computer but most everyday thing can be done (sending mails, browsing the web, editing spreadsheets). I never tried programming on it but I can imagine a world where the only computer i own fits in my pocket.
- johnisgood 1y agoI would go with a phone that has a keyboard, or with a powerful phone and just use a Bluetooth keyboard. Might be some mini keyboard (my fingers are small).
- giancarlostoro 1y agoI have a friend who works a normal 9 to 5 and codes from his phone at his full time job when there's down time. I've also met in programming discords various younger developers who write code from the only computing device they have access to: their phones.
- QQ00 1y agoyou would be surprised, but many people do programming on their phones. I can't imagine the pain to do that though, PC is way more flexible to do programming on.
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- charcircuit 1y ago>I want to compare WPMs on a keyboard vs. on a phone as well WPM is not the bottleneck in coding, especially now in the age where AI agents now do the coding for you.
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- overhead4075 1y agoI code on my phone using termux, tmux, nvim, and Unexpected Keyboard (no physical keyboard) on an Android phone. Vim style modal editing is actually really well suited to this kind of development. It lets me work on my hobbies while I commute, travel, or am otherwise idle and is a nice alternative to scrolling social media or consuming content. With git, I can just sync my changes and work from a PC when I can/want to.
- ipaddr 1y agoI use to program on my HP Jornada. On a smartphone its not bad there is one old editor with sftp/ftp support in the android store.
- anonzzzies 1y agoI am coding on an android tablet with a keyboard, so I hope more ides get released. Until I can run Linux on my tablets of choice, not much else can be done.
- johnisgood 1y agoCoding with a keyboard is a must for me. Whether it is through the phone or PC, it does not matter much[1], just give me the keyboard! :D [1] Actually it does matter for some things, like compilation time or performance of the program which I would do on a real computer, which I could do through SSH-ing on my phone to a PC.
- DashAnimal 1y agoYes! Recently came across a profilic Neovim plugin developer who used their phone for development: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1hay1z3/developer_wrote_25k_lines_of_neovim_plugin_code/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1hay1z3/develo... Meanwhile, i struggle to be efficient on my 13 inch screen